I am on the very edge of stopping being an active supporter. I just can't feel any affinity with the people running the club, the coaches or the type of players we have.

You used to know what to expect from Warrington, win lose or draw.

Sorry state of affairs.

Whilst I can see your PoV I hope you can understand mine. During the season its as good as a whole weekend I lose to go up there and watch Warrington. As previously stated, its tough to justify when there is an apparent lack of effort on the players behalf.

I am no fairweather fan either (or haven't been in the past at least) I was one of the 1000 that turned up to watch us play Blackpool in the Regal Trophy all them years ago (showing my age). I was also one of the 3,500 that watched us beat Cas at Wilderspool when we looked odds on for the drop.

I'll never walk away from them. However, and this is worse in my view, I'm not sure I really give a toss any more. Not as much as I used to anyway. It's hard to be bothered when some of the players aren't. I used to believe, naively, that regardless of their performance, they'd always give their all. I just feel a bit silly now.

I agree with much of this. I don't agree that bad performance is always down to lack of effort though.

I'm also a Man City fan, but tbh, in the past when they have been relegated and stuff, it has hardly ruined my day never mind my week, whereas Wire losing depresses me. Football has been something to watch to pass the time. RL is my passion.

At the moment, I am like you, I don't really care. I didn't want to go to Saints after the friendly against HKR, and I didn't want to go last night after the Saints game.

I certainly don't want to go to the next game. I'm not even that depressed now, just, well, not bothered...

I find people who moan about fans booing and complaining really irritating also.He is entitled to his opinion, people are entitled to boo - they pay their money. How else do you show your displeasure apart from not attending. Just because you do not choose to boo or moan does that make you correct?
I can just hear Jimmy saying now ....thanks for your support rugby chick and we will take your positive criticsm on board. I have missed a handful of games over the last 20 years but just because he did not choose to attend the match does not make him any less a supporter than anyone else!

I don't think you should complain, not as if you have to play Gateshead, Oldham and Batley week in week out is it?

Yes we have...

This is exactly how I feel now. I have sort of become anaesthetised to it all. I only go to the games out of some sort of dumb loyalty and fond memories of going with my late father. My expectations are now very low.

Exactly how I feel. In the very recent past, a defeat like Saturaday would have put me in a stinking mood, now it just washes over me.

A slightly different take on it was the amount of people there. I go as part of a group of seven, there was three of us there on Saturday evening.

Add me to the list of those who have been frustrated beyoned depression to simple boredom.

Very, very sad times. 23 years of passionate unswerving support crushed.

Sort of got my earlier last season with me opting out of the season ticket for the first time. I am now sort of opting out of going at all until I can see some honest endeavour and fire in their play.

Pity you can't replicate the same type of spirit that the junior side I coach showed yesterday when they turned around a 16-6 deficit to win the game in the last seconds 18-16. More heart and team spirit shown than any one of our so-called elite team.

Come on Wire, find your balls and prove me wrong.

Can we start a new clique? The Bothered Brotherhood?

Members:

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GDMM
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Mark_m

Who else is with us?

I'm in, I made my thoughts clear the other night, stick a fork in me, i'm done. I've never felt so low where Warrington is concerned, and never felt so uninspired by the offering as I do right now.

I don't eat things I don't like, I don't do things that I don't enjoy, so that's why, right now, I'm having a little rest from the rugby. If that makes me a part time fan, or whatever, i'll take that. I can't feel any emotional attachment to the coach, his methods nor can I justify in my head many of his decisions. If your players are a reflection on you, then I can see why our lot don't seem particularly enthused, as he has no enthusiasm.

Reminds me of Frank Rijkaard in his last days at Barca. Just no enthusiasm and a permanent face like a smacked a'rse

Underwhelmed!

I just thought he was a typical miserable assed yorkshire man.

Its interesting if one considers their feelings with reference to the classic Kübler-Ross Grief Cycle. In order, the stages are: Shock, Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Testing, Acceptance.

I have progressed steadily through all of these stages in the last few years an am now in acceptance.

Shock Stage - PC's 2 year extension
Denial - JC 4 year contract, and other daft contract extensions - I denied them all assuming a mis-print in the Guardian.
Anger - Castleford game at home.
Bargaining - Trying to convince myself Lowes was an inspired choice after a fantastic start.
Depression - All close season trying to believe and failing, fearing the worst for 2009.
Testing - A last chance to test ourselves against the best - St Helens away.
Acceptance - Les Catalans game. Just the acceptance that all the problems and issues that have dogged us for years still remain and there is nothing I can do about it.

That is tragically true. I'll be advising my lad to go directly to 'Acceptance' - it will save him a lot of bother.

wales france and england, that`s only 2 countries, wales is a pricipality !

1994 finished jouint top with bradford and wigan, huddersfield?

bloody moaners inc.

i'm a fool, that was pre super league


i'll get me coat

well arguably you could say first half of last season when we were 3/4th for ages, as well as top.

I thought timing wise, the board would struggle to deliver Tony Smith with the World Cup around the corner, it just didn't fit right, what with it being the first WC for eight years, Enlgand had prepped well, it seemed like the momentum was in their favour. Obviously with events in Australia, Smiths stock has fallen somewhat, his contract only has this year to run and I genuinely feel the RFL would be more receptive to letting him take the reigns at Warrington, should it be something he'd want to pursue.

I'm borderline pleading with the decision makers at Warrington Wolves to make this happen, and to save 2009.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.


Count me in.

I have hotels booked in London and Edinburgh.

The idea behind London was for me to go to the game whilst the Mrs spent time with her daughter (who lives in Chiswick). Seriously tempted to write off the Hotel cost (only £19 Travellodge) as I really don't think I can be bothered with the time, effort and cost of the drive and weekend in London.

For Edinburgh I have booked another Travellodge for three nights. Was to be me and the lad taking in an Edinburgh RL weekend. Every chance now that the whole family will travel and we'll use the family room as a base for a long weekend exploring the highlands.

I really can't believe I feel the way I do. The performances, and the manner of the capitulations both this season and the back end of last season, has left me completley apathetic about the team, club and sport I have loved so much.