what about mark gasiner

Great shout, thats what i suggested not so long ago where we could test the water with his agent to find out if he has truely settled in France. If he hasn`t then he would be a great replacement for Martin Gleeson and a massive crowd draw as well.

Is that right Rob? I was also under the impression that Shenton was a right centre. He certainly has the number 3 shirt, and he made King look silly last year when playing at right centre against us.

He can play both.

He started out as a right centre Dave, everything i have seen of him in recent times has been at left centre and thats where he seems to be doing great things, he wears 3 at left centre. The clip is from Feb this year.

=redno youtube links please.

Shenton is the left centre for us, he's been absolutely unbelievable so far. Last season he was a revelation for us and as certainly picked up from where he left off last year. Im not being biased but i don't think theres a SL centre i would want over him, of course i wouldn't mind Gidley

but Evans as impressed me considerably.

here we go again....

York 79 talking pooh...

I bet they're nearly the same age too.
Lyon came through very early whereas Shenton's a pretty late one to the table, possibly due to a lack of natural size?
I'd rather have british than Aus anyway and Shenton's up there

And I'd rather have the better player because that would make my team better and more likely to win.

Darren Lockyer or Leon Pryce?

no chance of shenny signing for you lot. cas through and through!!!

Shenton a late one to the table...? this is his sixth season in the Cas first team and he's only 23

Really? I thought I read he was at least 24.. and I only remember him coming into the side about 2006ish before hitting good form in the NL in 07.
Meh, I apologise..but Lyon isnt that old considering he's been around since about 2000.

totally different comparison because Lockyer is much older and only has a season or 2 at best in him. Now if you were to say Pryce now compared to Lockyer 2 or 3 years ago (so that he is a similar age to Lyon now) then it would be Lockyer no contest.

A quick question, when was the last time you seen Jamie Lyon show the same sort of form for Manly that he did whilst at St Helens ? He certainly hasn`t shown anywhere near his Saints form at Manly, yes its a tougher competion in the NRL and yes Lyon has played at 6 a lot but the times ive seen him at right centre for Manly he has looked average compared to his old saints form. He still looks a porker these days, he didn`t half put on weight in that last year at Saints.

Why is it? Your previous comment was "I want the better player to help my team win" so surely you'd want Darren Lockyer..being the better player and all.

I'll be honest here, I dont follow that league so I dont know. I'd imagine playing him at 6 sometimes and othertimes at centre doesnt help. Their league is also much tougher so harder to shine perhaps?

The fact is though, if Lyon came over here again he would still be a worldbeater. That is something Shenton is not. He also has a number of years left to play.....if Lyon was 30 or 31 then fair enough but a 27 year old Lyon or a 24 year old Shenton really is a no brainer.

Its not hard to follow...there is a clear balance between the here and now and how many years you get out of a player. Lockyer is by far and away better than Pryce but we would only get a season out of him and would be gambling with respect to his fitness.
Lyon on the other hand is far better than Shenton [uAND[/u the age gap isnt that great compared to your Lockyer example.

So your previous comment was incorrect then? Thanks.

not at all because I didnt commit to an answer. I changed the conditions. (ie Lockyer 2 years ago)

I believe you said "you wanted the better player" then decided you didn't, so moved the goalposts to attempt to give your answer a bit of credibility.

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Nope.

Under different conditions I would pick Pryce.

I would not pick Pryce over Lockyer just because Pryce is British (much like my original point that I wouldnt pick Shenton over Lyon just because he too is British)

However if we were to factor in age etc I would. This isnt a problem with the Lyon comparison because he is also a decent age.

I always love a good Darren Lockyer V Leon Pryce debate......



It takes me back to when that Keith the Beef feller tried to convince us all that the BNP were a set of fine upstanding gentlemen

Darren Lockyer possesses every attribute required in the game of Rugby League..... Leon Pryce is 6ft 3 and can hold a rugby Ball and run at the same time.

and only plays well against poor teams

keith is an idiot, that's a fact! i have told him to his face on numerous occasions, he has been unable to prove otherwise, he can keep his master race if it's full of people like him...........grrrrrrr