Anyone who has taken part in sports training at whatever level knows that the training cycle involves a period of building the training up to very tough levels and then maintaining those levels untill you are ready to taper it down ready for competition.

Its quite plausible that the wolves are still training tough and will only taper for the second half of the season ie, the business end. Its still possible to achieve results and a certain level of performance when you are training tough but maybe its a bit too tough at this point in the season. The players may well be leaving their performances on the training paddock or in the gym, which from personal experience, is very frustrating.

Maybe something needs to be tweaked.

The info I had about what occured in the dressing room after the Catalans game does not bode well for Jimmy, the club and the 2009 season.

I think certain players (higher profile) want Jimmy out and wont play properly till he has gone.

It begs the question what the hell is the captain Morley doing? He is a well known supporter of Jimmy and surely its his role as captain to keep all the players onside, so to speak.

I have sympathy for Jimmy in certain respects. I dont think he is experienced enough for this job but he is definitely not getting full support from his charges which doesn't help his cause.

Quote ="Lowes Out Hanley In"The info I had about what occured in the dressing room after the Catalans game does not bode well for Jimmy, the club and the 2009 season. I think certain players (higher profile) want Jimmy out and wont play properly till he has gone. It begs the question what the hell is the captain Morley doing? He is a well known supporter of Jimmy and surely its his role as captain to keep all the players onside, so to speak. I have sympathy for Jimmy in certain respects. I dont think he is experienced enough for this job but he is definitely not getting full support from his charges which doesn't help his cause.'" Here you go: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ley_column

Quote ="Lowes Out Hanley In"The info I had about what occured in the dressing room after the Catalans game does not bode well for Jimmy, the club and the 2009 season. I think certain players (higher profile) want Jimmy out and wont play properly till he has gone. It begs the question what the hell is the captain Morley doing? He is a well known supporter of Jimmy and surely its his role as captain to keep all the players onside, so to speak. I have sympathy for Jimmy in certain respects. I dont think he is experienced enough for this job but he is definitely not getting full support from his charges which doesn't help his cause.'" Here you go: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ley_column

Good article by Mike Parsons:
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[iIt's like I say, a lack of mental strength has been our undoing in recent years. We are aware of this, it's being rectified, we are getting there but it is one of those working processes.[/i

This is what I don't understand, if you look at players like King, Higham, Morley, even the coach himself, they are all guys who have achieved great things in RL.

Are we now to believe they have 'lost' this mental strength that they must have once possessed. And if so, how has this happened! Surely you would have the opposite would be true, that there winning spirit/desire/mentality would shine through to the rest of the players.

Dark days indeed....

Quote ="SEB"Here you go: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ley_column'" Well to say ive heard all that before is an understatement. Also, my source certainly wouldn't concur with what Morley states about the whole team being behind Lowes. Well done to Morley for attempting to diffuse the situation though, lets hope we get the right reaction at Wakey.

Quote ="SEB"Here you go: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ley_column'" Well to say ive heard all that before is an understatement. Also, my source certainly wouldn't concur with what Morley states about the whole team being behind Lowes. Well done to Morley for attempting to diffuse the situation though, lets hope we get the right reaction at Wakey.

Who is your source? A first team player? Come on what do you know? Spill or shut up.

Care to share? (obviously not revealing the source)

Please PM if its not for the forum, I am fascinated as I have heard something similar.

At the end of the day all these stories of discontent in the camp are based on hearsay and rumour which people will believe if they want to, nobody really knows what is true.

All you can really make a judgement on is the unarguable facts, my judgement that Lowes is not up to the job is based on the fact he's lost seven straight games and the team is consistently putting in poor performances.

The team could be as tight knit and supportive of him as any set of players in the league but those results say he's not up to the task.

Or the players aren't upto the task.

Michael Stoute couldn't train a donkey to win the Derby, no matter how hard he tried

He trained 2 donkeys to win the derby, Kris Kin was one of the worse derby winners in history and the race North Light won was a shocker, 3 of the horses that North Light beat ended up over the jumps. Both Kris Kin and North Light never won another race after Epsom.

They weren't donkeys though rob they were still thoroughbreds.

This was a passable argument in 2002 when a lot of the players were NL standard, but out of the current team who's not up to Super League?

Morley, Gleeson, Higham, Carvell, Westwood, King, Rauhihi and the Andersons are all Test players. Monaghan and Hicks were top players in the NRL. Briers and Paul Wood have been successful SL players for a long time. Riley, Bridge, Harrison and Blythe are all players who are rated as bright young talents and have representative honours at some level.

So who is it that's not up to Super League....surely if its the players fault and not the coach it should be easy to identify the individuals who don't have the basic skills to handle the profession.

I think most people don't realise how the smallest of details make the biggest differences.

It is my belief that a game is won on the training field, how you prepare for a game determines it's outcome. Once you cross the whitewash the weeks preperation needs to be executed to the letter as per the coach's instruction. It's great to have a group of players who have loads of ability, but it is how they are trained to manage adversity, when the game plan isn't working how do you implement plan b etc., that is when your coach earns his stripes.

I've only just been able to watch the interview, wowser. I haven't felt that uncomfortable in a long time. I had to switch off when he piped up for Anderson, how embarrassing.

Well I PM'd you but you never replied.

Guess you were lying, you hadn't heard anything

Of course, the problems at Warrington run much deeper than Lowes, and it'll take a top-class coach and disciplinarian to rebuild the club if we are ever to mount a serious challenge for silverware.

But Lowes is a complete imbecile. I don't like to get into the histrionics favoured by other posters but I simply can't see any positives in the guy.

The sooner we're rid of him, the better.

Every flaw that Cullen had - too matey with the players, short-term fixes to deep-rooted problems - are even more in evidence with Lowes, and all of Cullen's qualities are sadly lacking.

Its actually more important that you'd imagine. When was the last time you saw someone like Tony Smith or Daniel Anderson in trackkies and a t shirt with his feet up on a desk whilst coaching? Its about sending the right signal to the team and being their bessie mate jimmy one minute then coach lowes the next wont work. They wont take it seriously. Just look at the way he criticised them last year and then apologised. Come On!!! Ridiculous.

Didn't Lowes say he can't drop people after just 2 games? Hello clever dick, you dropped your most dangerous attacking weapon after one.

I wouldn't say Penny is our most dangerous player, but I know what you're getting at. Seems to be contradicting himself.

Which player in our team would you like to have the ball in space?

Or perhaps, just perhaps, I have not had chance to reply properly?

That's obviously different, but rugby league isn't just about pace. For me, Gleeson is our most dangerous player, he has great footwork, he can pass and offload, he's strong and he regularly beats his man. Penny is probably the most dangerous player in the league when there's space for him to run into, but Gleeson has more overall, in my opinion.

Would say the same myself.