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Quote: Longbarn Wire "Not for me to expand on it in honesty.....and ive had a beer so maybe should of worded it differently....

All il say is, im lead to believe there are a group of players not buying into his methods the way he wants to work...all part of the culture change he wants to instill. Very much a work in progress by all accounts.'"


Any players not playing to their ability or in line with the coaches direction need to be dropped and put on loan. I'd rather lose with a good camp than lose with a bad one.

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Quote: Wires71 "Any players not playing to their ability or in line with the coaches direction need to be dropped and put on loan. I'd rather lose with a good camp than lose with a bad one.'"


Absolutley agree. Its what Smith did. Gleeson gone and he threatened Briers with Barrow on loan....

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Quote: Wires71 "Any players not playing to their ability or in line with the coaches direction need to be dropped and put on loan. I'd rather lose with a good camp than lose with a bad one.'"


The recent pathetic performances don't happen with a good group. Our youngsters showed that the other year against Salford.

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Quote: runningman29 "Worst set of forwards in the whole of SL and it’s says a lot when Aston probably makes more yardage taking the ball up.Will struggle make the top 8.'"


No probably about it. He makes 9.3m average gain, 2nd only to Conor Wrench.

Philbin makes a poor 6.5 and J Clark < 6.0.

Cooper has decent prop figures with 8.3

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Quote: Wires71 "No probably about it. He makes 9.3m average gain, 2nd only to Conor Wrench.

Philbin makes a poor 6.5 and J Clark < 6.0.

Cooper has decent prop figures with 8.3'"


Stats may suggest that Philbin was poor this afternoon but I don't think he was. He still needs to be better but he clearly tried to run better lines and ran hard IMO. Cooper is still our best, bullock made 1 bad PTB error but was good otherwise, mulhern ran hard and was solid.

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Quote: CW8 "Stats may suggest that Philbin was poor this afternoon but I don't think he was. He still needs to be better but he clearly tried to run better lines and ran hard IMO. Cooper is still our best, bullock made 1 bad PTB error but was good otherwise, mulhern ran hard and was solid.'"


Stats probably not updated as yet to take account of todays game.

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Quote: Wires71 "Can you share the nature of these "issues in camp" ?'"

I've heard the same rumours, from a connected source.

Day 1 at the "players' bonding session" in York
"Is there anything you want to get off your chests?"
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Ditto

Next time of asking
"Yes. Powell is training us too hard. It was not like this under Steve"

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I'm a lover of many sports and I don't think I've ever known a set of fans to be so pro coach/manager after a bad run of form.

But I agree with it. I'd much rather get rid of the dissidents than get rid of Powell. They've had it far too easy for too long.

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The players are dumb at times. Just watching the last try and the set restart on tackle 5. FFS.

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Quote: Jack Napier "I'm a lover of many sports and I don't think I've ever known a set of fans to be so pro coach/manager after a bad run of form.

But I agree with it. I'd much rather get rid of the dissidents than get rid of Powell. They've had it far too easy for too long.'"



My suspicions lie with the players that have played under Smith, Price and Powell. Getting the first sacked, embarrassing the second, and frustrating the third.

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Quote: sir adrian morley "See no Williams again..so the duckster was right..some on here owe him an apology'"

No apologies needed. I post what I hear and be dammed. Tbh, I wish I was wrong.

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Despite being done at the death, I thought that was one of our better performances this season. We carried the ball and defended with more vigour, but still seem to back off a bit too much when defending our flanks. Peter Mata'utia made good yards by running forwards rather than sideways, but I only saw him pass once during the game, with around 1 minute left. We need to bring some attacking threat to our right edge, otherwise were too easy to defend against as defences know where we'll be attacking.

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In a strange way i quite enjoyed the match. It showed we were prepared to work hard and but for some questionable refereeing decisions we would’ve won. I’m loathe to criticise refs normally…but Currie sin bin? Forward passes called by the crowd. That 6 again where i felt the Hull player moved forward but would need to see it again. As for that try???
However this was a major step forward in Thewlis’s development. I thought our pack stood up to Hull’s bigger men. 2 games in a short turnaround looked too much for Widdop. Longstaff seems very strong for a lighter looking bloke.
As for issues in the camp, there is a reason that “change management” plays a big part in all areas of management. Getting people to buy in takes a while.
So, disappointed with the defeat but not downhearted.

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Quote: rubber duckie "No apologies needed. I post what I hear and be dammed. Tbh, I wish I was wrong.'"

Nope he was wrong, as I said he’ll be back for the Huddersfield match.

Oh God…..I’m wasting time here again aren’t I. Doh…

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Quote: DallasMead2 "Nope he was wrong, as I said he’ll be back for the Huddersfield match.

Oh God…..I’m wasting time here again aren’t I. Doh…'"

Which is the weekend nearest May 1st.

I’ve no question about him being ready for Hudds, I had liked your post and said I hope I’m wrong.
Following on you jibed on about me being nostrodarmous and no IQ because he was in the squad for Hull last week. Now you have seemingly forgotten that, and I’m still wrong.
If he plays v Hudds I’ll be very happy to be wrong, but we’ll both be wrong…but unlike you. I don’t actually give a shiitake while you’re voicing and bouncing off the walls pal.

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