Wikipedia now's about as much as you do on this subject and by the sounds of it that isn't much.

You mean he had so much influence over it the application it went to the risk and lottery of PUBLIC ENQUIRY?

Lord Hoyle steered the process but I guarantee that if the supporters had not shown so much will and demand for the stadium IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PASSED BECAUSE IT WAS AGAINST THE PLANNING LEGISLATION THAT WAS THEN IN PLACE.

If I could find the report I would quote the relevant points verbatim.

I have explained this to you before via PM, check your inbox.

That is not an explanation just a far fetched suggestion. You have been watching too much TV.

I still despair at the vast majority written i our forums, we make ourselves the laughing stock of super league with our reactions not what the club does.

This is still after 3 defeats this year against 3 very good and practically error free teams in their performances against us.

We're one of the best run super league teams with everything that we do. There is a fine line between winning and loosing and we just need to find the difference. People talk about bring in this coach or that coach, it's not as simple as pick a name and give him the job. Looking at our fans, there are probably not alot of coaches that would want the job.

Only one thing needs to change at Warrington and thats the culture that has been here for years. We all know what it is. Even karl Harrison comments on it in todays League weekly.

Don't boo the coach or the players or Moran and don't hope for us to get beat this week as some of you have. People sing wire till I die and then boo certain players or coaches when things don't go our way. The people hat make desicions about playing staff or coaching staff will make changes whether we want it or not and will do it as appropriate. We should be there to support the club through thick or thin and back the people who have to make the descions rather than continually slate them.

No i think your somewhat blinded by the primrose and blue.

I can picture it now; Doug yanks the receiver off the base. 'Get me Prescott, NOW!'

DL: 'John, it's Doug, this calling in of the application for the superstore and stadium, it needs letting through right now'

JP: 'Doug who?' phone goes down.

Indeed. Good point well made.

Spot on.

Can't believe that our fans have now taken to blaming Moran. Who next? Wolfie?

He was targeted last week for his poor French.

Haha, missed that one.

Wakefield 48- 22 Warrington.

James Lowes making comments like "We contained them", "I'm really positive about our performance", "Defensively we did well", "We were enthusiastic for 80 mins" and "I'm looking forward to next week".

That is what make this club a laughing stock.

For once you and I are in total agreement. I still cannot believe he said that.

Got it now, thanks.

Simon Moran knows nothing because Latchford Wolvesfan doesn't agree with him - must be true then.

Lets get rid of the lot of them and replace them with LW and his most knowledgable mates because to solve all our problems we don't need money, business acumen or contacts, we just need people who know about rugby league. It's so simple I don't know why we didn't think about that before. It's a shame that none of our former coaches understood the game.

The criticism of Moran is taking things too far. A man who puts his own money into a club that he cares about it, only to be ridiculed by certain 'fans' as knowing nothing about RL.

......Simon Moran gets tired of all the whingers and whiners on this forum, and of all the vieled and not so vieled personal attacks and decides he's had enough.

Who will 'we' be blaming then?
I bet it's not ourselves. It'll be anything but.

We've got a lot to be thankful for imo.

Whilst I think the club has a reasonably sound business model, I don't think it's sound enough that it could withstand him leaving.
I, for one, would not like to see Moran pack up his bags but I would fully understand it if he did.

Sometimes there is something in excess of hysteria here and I only hope those people get real.

How would you know any of that?

Listen, okay? You guys'll never believe me. There was two cop cars, okay? And they were chasing this four-wheel deal, this real neat ORV, and there were bullets flying all over the place. It was the most amazing thing I ever saw!

Do you really believe what you're saying?
I can tell you now there is a big gulf between us and Saints/Leeds, it is not a fine line.



It certainly isn't a case of pick anybody because they happen to be at the club, it should be a case of finding the best available to meet the club's ambition, which is to win Super League. As for coaches not wanting the job, we're one of the best run Super League teams in everything we do, we have a fantastic stadium, a set of international players and a good youth system, and we were one of the top ranked clubs when it came to franchising. If any top coach is interested then they need only contact Andrew Johns or Adrian Morley for advice on what the club has to offer.

Top coaches know that there are expectations from the fans.



Mediocrity.



You're being unrealistic if you expect the fans to accept the situation without complaining. They are paying a lot of money to keep going to games and buying the merchandise etc, and at the end of the day the club is about the supporters, when nobody watches the team any more then the club will be wound up.

Lots of these supporters are still paying their money and will do whether the team is bottom or top of the league, but it doesn't mean they are happy about the situation. They want the club to do well and will voice their opinion. If that unsettles people who are being handsomely paid for delivering nothing then hard luck, maybe professional sport isn't for them.

FFS, club management is completely different from international management, Smith has been successful at club level, fact.

Wikipedia, and I, know how to spell, though.

You are missing the point. Smith failed to mould a bunch of individuals and factions into a team. That is exactly why we don't need him at Warrington because that is a major problem here.

He also inherited an already successful team at Leeds. He certainly won't get that here either.

Unfortunately, I don't know of many other multi millionaires who have an interest in Warrington RLFC, so I guess we'll have to make do with Mr Moran, that useless businessman, who like a tight fisted scrooge, has been bank rolling the club for the last few years...



By the way, if somebody took over and ran it as a business, I doubt it would get very far...anybody with half a brain knows sports clubs don't make money, especially those in provincial towns playing a minority sport...

What i was really getting at is i want the board to be more proactive especially SM, he has put a lot off wonga into Warrington but on the face of it seems not to do a lot about whats happened, its not just the current situation but the never ending inept performances over the years, thats what most of the fans are sick to death off....been watching them a long long time and i have nearly had my fill of them

Thats an interesting point really. From the World Cup Smith found it hard to gel a team full of individuals together such as our squad at the moment.

However, given the time (3 years I reckon) Smith when he has his team and gets the player he wants in, I'm confident he will be able to hopefully put us in the right direction.