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awful awful decision maker, average defensive fullback, brilliant broken field runner, but was absolutely rubbish today. That was not a good performance.

And if a wigan fan thinks that is a statemant typed out in some kind of jealousy then I guess it goes some way to explain the numb nut gleeeful drumming and woah woahing that came from the Wigan end after recieving the driest of dry bummings.

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Quote: danburge82 "Can't stand the little rat!

I think he's a good player. A little selfish at times and makes wrong decisions at times too, but his winding runs are great to watch and he's improving defensively. By the time he's in his late 20's he'll be a very good player.

However, he just doesn't play within the spirit of rugby league. He's like a whingey and whiney little girl, or like Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole in footy - notice how they get boo'd a lot as well! He's worse than the fat ginger Scouser at Saints for crying to the refs. Tomkins spends more time in conversation with the referee than all SL captains put together. Any decision the ref makes he's got a loving comment to make about it. Why?! Just shut yer dirty cake hole and get on with the game you moaning tw@! Ganson sinbinned him for it a while back (could have been last season) but that was the only time I've ever seen a ref punish him. He also constantly calls for the ref to give a decision. Never seen owt like it. A little tickle brushing his chin and he's looking and shouting at the ref for a penalty. If he wants to be a referee why doesn't he just get his badges and run around the middle with a whistle? He can make as many calls as he wants then.

Then there's the parts of his actual game. Constantly tying his legs around opponents or gripping opponents hands/arms or pulling opponents jerseys close to his body in a tackle to try and win a penalty. Constantly pushing the marker when he plays the ball. Constantly throwing or kicking the ball away. Constantly taking the mickey with facial expressions or saying things to opposing players. He dives too and feigns injury quite a lot; that dive in the Grand Final last season was an absolute disgrace where he went down as if absolutely smashed in the face and holding his face on the floor when there was absolutely nowt up with him, he was like a girly South American footy player. And so on and so on.... I've not even mentioned sticking the "V's" up last week - oh I just did!

Now don't get me wrong, every player in the league will do these things now and again throughout the season (well apart from the diving and feigning injury) but it's all game, every game with this runt. And this is why he's boo'd. How the media don't get this I don't know.'"




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As a wire fan personally I believe that him kicking out at Clarke, while wrong is being blown out proportion, what I was most annoyed about with Tomkins today was him asking the referee to sin bin Morley, it was like watching a premier league footballer. Unbelievably childish and unsporting in such a tough game. It didn't happen but he deserved to thoroughly filled in for trying to get not just another competitor but an England teammate sin binned, I couldn't believe what I saw.

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Shouldn't be playing the next few weeks after trying to decapitate Clarke.

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Maybe McGuire would have been better to "rest" him for the game to avoid the controversy & the abuse he would & did get - after all Fergusson did the same when Utd last went to Everton

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Quote: Mark "Shouldn't be playing the next few weeks after trying to decapitate Clarke.'"

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For the first time ever yesterday, you'd actually want him playing as an opposition fan. It was a Kev Penny style performance, bit of genuis followed by 36 moments of madness.

He looked down yesterday Sam, really downbeat. Like he'd realised Joel was his brother.

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[b:33tg3xj5]Me:[/b:33tg3xj5] I'm still reeling from the news that someone is considering watching the 1st and 3rd game on Saturday and NOT watching Warrington play. It's like being in Shea Stadium when the Beatles came to town and deciding to nip out for a fag. [b:33tg3xj5]knockersbumpMKII:[/b:33tg3xj5] Is it FOOK, you're good but you're not THAT good, jesus you wanky fans need to get over yourselves, Beatles at the Shea in '65 was a once in a lifetime opportunity for some (despite the following years performance), you can watch a very good team in primrose & yellow play every week if you really wanted to but comparing it to one of the very best music groups of all time in an iconic stadia such as the shea is overegging your importance, you're not even the best team in SL atm:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50086.jpg



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He looked down yesterday Sam, really downbeat. Like he'd realised Joel was his brother.'"


Superb. Reckon he's no more than half brother anyway, they don't look remotely similar.

Speaking of Joel, nice of him to let Brett have a go at refereeing for a change. It's usually his job to bore the ref to tears all game but it was the ineffectual Australian who had a go yesterday.

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"Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19 Things I learned on 11/08/12 Gareth Hock can't pass Gareth Hock can't run Gareth Hock can't fight [url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png



I've been laughed at for saying this 4 or 5 times by the usual hall of shame mob, but I will say it again; Sam tomkins isn't very good against an ,even somewhat, organised defense. His decision making is it the level of the cheerleaders who were playing the old fogeys yesterday, his defense is worse than briers' used to be, he has no attack unless play is really broken (as king warrior says about us; can only do it against less oppositin) and he is a frail, petulant cheat.

It is games like today's and at the pie dome and all of the 4 nations and many more that make me glad he isn't at the wire.

You can put it down to youth or bad coaching and it all may change when he reaches some magic number but he looks like a kid when he is playing. Immature, spoilt and, often, clueless with ball in hand!

He isn't better than brett, briers or myler. In fact, riles was several leagues better than him yesterday. The dictionary defintion of emporor's new clobber!

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At least he'll be fresh for Crusaders, he saved so much energy yesterday

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "

That was easy. You're the jerk who thinks he does nothing wrong, never been warned etc. We don't take your comments seriously.

www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1523
Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "

That was easy. You're the jerk who thinks he does nothing wrong, never been warned etc. We don't take your comments seriously.

www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?1523


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Quote: danburge82 "Can't stand the little rat!

I think he's a good player. A little selfish at times and makes wrong decisions at times too, but his winding runs are great to watch and he's improving defensively. By the time he's in his late 20's he'll be a very good player.

However, he just doesn't play within the spirit of rugby league. He's like a whingey and whiney little girl, or like Wayne Rooney or Ashley Cole in footy - notice how they get boo'd a lot as well! He's worse than the fat ginger Scouser at Saints for crying to the refs. Tomkins spends more time in conversation with the referee than all SL captains put together. Any decision the ref makes he's got a loving comment to make about it. Why?! Just shut yer dirty cake hole and get on with the game you moaning tw@! Ganson sinbinned him for it a while back (could have been last season) but that was the only time I've ever seen a ref punish him. He also constantly calls for the ref to give a decision. Never seen owt like it. A little tickle brushing his chin and he's looking and shouting at the ref for a penalty. If he wants to be a referee why doesn't he just get his badges and run around the middle with a whistle? He can make as many calls as he wants then.

Then there's the parts of his actual game. Constantly tying his legs around opponents or gripping opponents hands/arms or pulling opponents jerseys close to his body in a tackle to try and win a penalty. Constantly pushing the marker when he plays the ball. Constantly throwing or kicking the ball away. Constantly taking the mickey with facial expressions or saying things to opposing players. He dives too and feigns injury quite a lot; that dive in the Grand Final last season was an absolute disgrace where he went down as if absolutely smashed in the face and holding his face on the floor when there was absolutely nowt up with him, he was like a girly South American footy player. And so on and so on.... I've not even mentioned sticking the "V's" up last week - oh I just did!

Now don't get me wrong, every player in the league will do these things now and again throughout the season (well apart from the diving and feigning injury) but it's all game, every game with this runt. And this is why he's boo'd. How the media don't get this I don't know.'"


Totally agree with this. He went down in my estimation yesterday. However, Maguire has a lot to do with this, the player is starting to emulate the coach.

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Get's away with another caution for yesterday

rlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3185rl

So too Lima

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No mention of Hock or Coley yet

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