no. just check the records. FACT.

Last 20 years?

god who started this hate list

I've listed trophies worth winning, not BBC floodlight equivalents. i.e mickey mouse ones.

League titles.

Liverpool - 18
United - 17

European Cups

Liverpool 5
United 3

FA Cups

United 11
Liverpool 7

World Club

United 2
Liverpool 0

Total

United 33
Liverpool 30


FACT.

You seem to have forgotten League Cups, Manchester United are the current champions, and have 3 victories, but Liverpool have 7.
This is seen by UEFA as the same as the FA cup with the same European reward. But I can understand hao this doesn't fit with your warped logic



Liverpool 37
Manchester United 36

FACT

Nothing competition, that most teams don't give a sh*t about, it's not our fault our second string is good enough to win trophies.
33-30...

oi, pack it in before you start with the foosball arguing, if you want to do that off to other sports or i'm locking this.

Let him have his League Cups mark and we'll include Charity Shields

My Hate list (on thred)
Charity Sheilds.
People called Mark from Surrey

I still struggle with the conecpt of having to hate somebody because they are from a different town than I am.

Of the teams I'm 'supposed' to hate, being from Warrington, I probably have more trouble 'liking' Widnes, but by no means do I hate them. I am somewhat bemused by the attitude and behaviour of a number of their townfolk; some seem to have a real chip on their shoulder. I do have a strong dislike for some people I have encountered there whilst playing rugby, but that is due to their personality and I have enountered similar elsewhere. Widnes, however, remains the only town I have seen a fully grown man berate a little old lady because of the rugby team she supports.

One thing that grates at me with Sintelluns, in rugby terms, is the SkySports love-in that anyone who plays for Saints is "a GB certainty for the future" - Scott Moore, Kyle Eastmond, et al. That, however, isn't the fault of the Sintelluns public, nor even the lads themselves, it's just bleeding annoying.

Wigan.. Well, I actually love Wigan as a town and there are very few Wiganers I have come across and didn't like. There's banter there in rugby terms, but, for me at least, nothing mallicious.

There are people that I consider good friends who support those three teams, too.

While we're sharing the love, I'd like to point out that my two favourite (other) rugby towns are Leigh and Castleford.

In fact, if anything, I have had more difficulty at times liking some Wire 'fans', but I suppose familiarity can breed contempt at times. *

*Don't take this and turn it into a big issue, no doubt we've all seen someone at the matches and thought =redVery funny, but keep it clean please!.

Seen plenty of them, best bit of them =redVery funny, but keep it clean please!

funny you've just reminded me of when Alex Murphy was your coach and said that if Wire lost the challenge cup final to Widnes in 1975 then he would jump off the bridge. We won but the never fulfilled his promise.

No one is bothered about the fizzy pop cup or the European equivalent (the UEFA cup)

No it isn't. That's a crap reason.

Feeling the love

especially since the highest we got on any list is-

I get grief off Salford fans so Salford top the hate list for me. Normally it's along the lines of "Why do you support Warrington when you live in Urmston?", ignoring the fact that it takes as longer to get to the Willows by public transport than it does to Warrington.

Saying that, I once got grief off a bloke in a pub in Sale who thought Wire were Sale Sharks' local rivals...

Good post that on the whole. I am like yourself in some ways, I can't understand the concept of hating somebody because they live in somewhere you don't. For example, one of my best mate's girlfriends is from Orford and a smashing bird like. I have a few mate's from across the other side of Penketh, I don't let silly rugby things get in the way of that.

As for rugby, hand on Heart I don't really think I hate any club collectively although we may chant and sing about them on matchday. I know several lads in the 30-50 age bracket who say they hate Warrington passionately, mainly due to various bouts of crowd violence and so on, but that era is long gone and the halycon days of the 70's and 80's and a big contrast from today's family game.

Have to say I am not massively fond on Hull KR fans, as they have been quite hostile ON OCCASION, but like I say I don't hate them collectievly as it probably a minority looking for trouble.

Sorry to be pedantic, but you're wrong, but only by 0.2 miles.

. Although I would probably avoid KFC like the plague, seeing as you're from Penketh try that 'anmol' restaraunt or whatever it is called.

I wouldnt mind a KFC right about now. Starving.

Maccy d's will still be open.

They should 'deliver' IMO. I hate the chicken they do ( I know that defeats the object

). The chips have a lot going for them though. Mcdonalds chips are a farce, I don't mind a bit of Salt tbut they feel the need to take it to another extreme.

The Chips are the worst thing about KFC, there not good. The Ketchup and Chicken is good however.

Would prefer a chinese at moment though.

Good call, BBQ spare ribs to start with. Maybe chicken & sweetcorn soup and then main course chicken with Pineapple, specify NO ONIONS though. Onions are food of the devil. scummy onions.

sweetcorn!



Hot & Sour Soup followed by fried shredded beef in ok Sauce.
Couple of Spring Rolls Perhaps.

Oh yeah, hate lists? Nah, I'm a lover not a hater.

Maccies Chips>>>Burger King Chips>>>>>>>>>>>KFC Chips.

Or fries, if your trying to be an American.