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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "he was my No1... But I'm fully behind this one now.
Its a brave, aggressive appointment... few nice signings... few encouraging press conferences by Burgess..... We will all be fired up going into next season.'"
Was not overly happy when the news of Burgess signing was announced but yeh agree we need to get onboard with it
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| Quote: karetaker "Was not overly happy when the news of Burgess signing was announced but yeh agree we need to get onboard with it'"
what's the alternative? get all bitter and twisted.... be wound up before he has even taken over?
Every new appointment after a sacking should be viewed as exciting.. or else what's the point?
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "what's the alternative? get all bitter and twisted.... be wound up before he has even taken over?
Every new appointment after a sacking should be viewed as exciting.. or else what's the point?'"
I agree with you but we should have won a grand final before now with the resources we have. And yes read the posts about Leeds trying to copy Wigan back in the day and it not working. Just this announcement did not feel inspiring to me at first. But like others have said there is not exactly a great choice right now, maybe Briers in a couple of years
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| I want to know what the players think.
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| Quote: WILLOWSTOURS "Wow I get my predictions of the coaching structure (well nearly chambers instead of Cullen)right and you lock my thread, pure arrogance, but expected of wire fans who now jumping on the Sam burgess wagon.'"
I locked your thread as a bit of good housekeeping with another thread already up and running.
Nothing to do with Wire fans arrogance at all BTW coming on here and stating you nearly got your prediction of the coaching structure nearly right doesn't actually show you in a good light TBH.
Feel free to join the debate on live threads by all means but please less of the dramatics
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| Question - Does Burgess get a free pass next year from you lot then? We nearly got relegated last year but most on here were fine and dandy with it because 'it wasn't Powells squad' well Burgess has next to no wriggle room when it comes to next years squad. Other than calling on reserves. So if we're still predictably crap next year, is it 12 months of free passes for him?
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I'm a regular watcher of the NRL, and all the NRL shows, and all the journalists and former players say that Sam Burgess is an NRL coach in the making, speak about him in glowing terms, and how much the players in the dressing room admire him. He's not just an ex-player. He is one of the most highly-regarded young assistants in the NRL.
The only downside is that the Warrington job is just a stepping stone to the Souths top job, but everyone in the NRL gushes about him. Not as a player, but as an assistant coach.
Read this from today's NRL 360https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2023-south-sydney-rabbitohs-sam-burgess-warrington-wolves-coaching-rugby-league-news-reaction/news-story/b3f015d7762284d6eaa9462406023c51rl'"
Can’t be true because WireWireWire from Padgate says he’s crap. What does Wayne Bennett know compared to this bloke?
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| Quote: WireWireWire "Question - Does Burgess get a free pass next year from you lot then? We nearly got relegated last year but most on here were fine and dandy with it because 'it wasn't Powells squad' well Burgess has next to no wriggle room when it comes to next years squad. Other than calling on reserves. So if we're still predictably crap next year, is it 12 months of free passes for him?'"
im expecting to see a team that cares.... that plays for the shirt.
a strong set of forwards that are formidable.. and a set of back that score alot of tries.
We do have alot of good strike players, and the makings of a decent pack.
He doesn't get a free pass..... if he can inject intensity and a will to win, into these players... then its more than any of the last few have managed
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Can’t be true because WireWireWire from Padgate says he’s crap. What does Wayne Bennett know compared to this bloke?'"
Well if he's such a great leader, and accepts nothing less than 100%, and is doing such a stellar job, why are they mid table? Is everything that goes well atrributed to him, but everything bad is due to failure elsewhere?
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| Support Sam campaign, back burgess let’s do as all the players are saying bond get behind them and move on, didn’t see Wigan fans going mad about inexperienced Peet getting job, or stains losing the plot because Wellends got head coach there .
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "im expecting to see a team that cares.... that plays for the shirt.
a strong set of forwards that are formidable.. and a set of back that score alot of tries.
We do have alot of good strike players, and the makings of a decent pack.
He doesn't get a free pass..... if he can inject intensity and a will to win, into these players... then its more than any of the last few have managed'"
This years team have proven they can do all that, and when they did, we won every game, bar the Saints one. So why are we only expecting 'an improvement' ? If Burgess is who everyone says he is, then why not expect the GF next year? Because if the only thing thats been lost is intensity, and he accepts nothing less than 100%, then why shouldn't we win the lot under him?
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| Quote: WILLOWSTOURS "Wow I get my predictions of the coaching structure (well nearly chambers instead of Cullen)right and you lock my thread, pure arrogance, but expected of wire fans who now jumping on the Sam burgess wagon.'"
I never realised that this forum was a dick measuring contest.... Thanks for letting us know
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| No matter my views. I genuinely think this is a terrible appointment for us. I will get behind the team regardless and hope and pray for the best and hope that
1. Sam Burgess proves me wrong.
2. Warrington have a significant impact and run in superleague in the next few years.
My major problem is although we have (who I guess we will be calling him this going forward) big Sam in charge going into next year. Its all time limited as they have already said he is on his way back to south's in 2 years time. And apparently his family are staying in Australia for the duration.
On that basis. Where does that leave us.
2 years to do something with a unproven and untested coach with barely 4 years of actual experience under his belt
If it works. He will be seen as a god in the same way Tony Smith is seen as around warrington. But it's only 2 years. So we need to be looking for a new coach realistically. In 12 months time.
If it doesn't work. Then what for warrington. We have tried every possible method and solution to get us a grand final win. And if/when it has not paid off. Sam has a nice cushy job to go back to in Australia. And again we are left hanging high and dry why we search for the solution yet again. I guess that we are protected from relegation next year and going forward into the future given we should have enough credits to protect ourselves. But I really shouldn't of needed to say that in the first place
Something seems a bit fishy with Justin Holbrooks sudden change of heart. The tickets were booked. Until he talked to his wife apparently. It was 24 hours. What changed in 24 hours. Surely they are not that stupid to have not had the conversation 2 months ago when things started getting vocal and he was being linked to the job then that when Middleton came in with the offer. This is what they would've taken and accepted and all that backroom stuff families talk about.
My gut that I can't shake the feeling that we still should of looked to an experienced hand in rebuilding the club from the ground up. And rebuild what has essentially set us back 5-7 years given what's happened over the last 18 months.
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| Quote: wire2004 "
Something seems a bit fishy with Justin Holbrooks sudden change of heart. The tickets were booked. Until he talked to his wife apparently. It was 24 hours. What changed in 24 hours. Surely they are not that stupid to have not had the conversation 2 months ago when things started getting vocal and he was being linked to the job then that when Middleton came in with the offer. This is what they would've taken and accepted and all that backroom stuff families talk about.
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I've known more than one international career move (not rugby) where everything has been agreed, the person involved plus partner have made a visit to the new country, looked at accommodation etc then, at the 11th hour, everything collapses because the partner has had a change of heart. People agree to things but, when reality kicks in, they get cold feet.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "Well if he's such a great leader, and accepts nothing less than 100%, and is doing such a stellar job, why are they mid table? Is everything that goes well atrributed to him, but everything bad is due to failure elsewhere?'"
Because he is not the head coach who as the final say. I was saying the same about Briers when he was assistant to Price. Then he goes to Wigan and now doing well in Aus. As an assistant I guess it’s how much the head coach lets you get involved. Seem to me that Price kept a lid on Briers.
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