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| Just reading through the last few pages and having a little chuckle to myself.
I will admit Steve McNamara was my no1 choice as mentioned previously.
I will back Burgess and hopefully he will be a success.
What makes me smile the fans who are dishing the appointment back at the beginning of this thread were backing Michael Monaghan.
Say no more.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "Where's the reason to believe? What have the club done in the past 10 years, that has given you this faith in the club, board, players, coach, to succeed? To get it right? You can't argue with me that there is any. You were still defending Powell 5 games ago, despite your efforts to deny it. So you're clearly going to be content with whatever drivel comes our way. My mood is neither here nor there just as those believers are also in reality not actually sitting in the clouds. All i see it as is, you guys are still at the point of expecting we might get it right this time, and I'm past it. And will watch on as such until proven wrong.'"
Like I said, you aren't a supporter. You have given up, which is fair enough - You just spout negativity and expect failure, which is a desperately sad mindset over something relatively trivial like following a sports team.
The whole essence of supporting a team is to follow through thick and thin and to give support even when it seems hopeless.
Your whining does make you come across like an entitled child.
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| Quote: WireWireWire "Powell came with one LLS in about 18 years of coaching lol. Proof is in the pudding, and he was obviously a pudding. Don't try and make out that Powell was ever a good appointment and that Sam also is because he has zero experience. What we need is a coach with experience WINNING. As a coach.'"
We don't need a coach who has won with somebody else, we need a coach that will win with us. Nobody can know whether any appointment is good or bad until we can look back retrospectively and assess the squad performances. This feels like a huge freshen up from what we have been through recently. Powells Wire was far too easy to work out and play against, let's hope that the new regime will be much better.
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The rehab unit at the Halliwell Jones Medical Centre are gonna be busy
Some of you lot are gonna lose your appointments
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| Quote: lefty goldblatt "I read the BBC one,
To read the same story on 10 different sites is as pointless as playing Mata'utia'"
I think if you read the guardian first then you would be right but given you didn't and therefore didn't het the whole picture, reading it twice would have been quite useful, playing mata'utia is totally pointless.
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| So seems to be differing opinions regarding whether it’s Long or Gleeson or both. Some saying Long to Cas but that would be insane that would be a backwards step from Featherstone.
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| Quote: Sparky1967 "Just reading through the last few pages and having a little chuckle to myself.
I will admit Steve McNamara was my no1 choice as mentioned previously.
I will back Burgess and hopefully he will be a success.
What makes me smile the fans who are dishing the appointment back at the beginning of this thread were backing Michael Monaghan.
Say no more.'"
Try and answer this would you have supported the appointment of McNamara as our coach following his first stint at Bradford's academy, or his stint as Bradford's Head Coach, or at the end of the McBanana years with England, or now his Catalans team are looking like the real SL deal?
I'm not saying your choice is wrong BTW but it does illustrate that giving a coach their head and a chance with a big job isn't straightforward
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| The issue with this appointment isn't that he is a first time head coach. Holbrook, Maguire, Tony Smith were all assistants in the NRL and came here and did well. Going back further, Trent Robinson, Matthew Elliot and Shaun McRae.
The issue is that he comes with the kind of baggage that would be screaming red flags if he was a player. Loads of driving offences, fined by the NRL for taking drugs and threatening another player. You need the coach to have a higher level of character and reliability, like Holbrook, Maguire and those guys do.
This appointment feels like a bit of a gimmick like you get football clubs appointing guys like Di Canio or Lee Bowyer or Joey Barton as manager.
I also don't want Gleeson here as coach. Whilst I liked him as a player, he was part of the culture problem that hampered us in the Cullen era and everybody generally accepts that it was right for TS to move him on (although he did win Super League with Wigan). If we have Burgess and Long or Long/Gleeson it doesn't feel like we're going to sort out the culture does it.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "The issue with this appointment isn't that he is a first time head coach. Holbrook, Maguire, Tony Smith were all assistants in the NRL and came here and did well. Going back further, Trent Robinson, Matthew Elliot and Shaun McRae.
The issue is that he comes with the kind of baggage that would be screaming red flags if he was a player. Loads of driving offences, fined by the NRL for taking drugs and threatening another player. You need the coach to have a higher level of character and reliability, like Holbrook, Maguire and those guys do.
This appointment feels like a bit of a gimmick like you get football clubs appointing guys like Di Canio or Lee Bowyer or Joey Barton as manager.
I also don't want Gleeson here as coach. Whilst I liked him as a player, he was part of the culture problem that hampered us in the Cullen era and everybody generally accepts that it was right for TS to move him on (although he did win Super League with Wigan). If we have Burgess and Long or Long/Gleeson it doesn't feel like we're going to sort out the culture does it.'"
We've ALWAYS been known as a drinking club, and to have those 2 (potentially) coming here, is a recipe for disaster. Wasn't Long referred to as the George Best of St Helens. I've heard some tales regarding Gleeson, too.
A couple of party animals. Great.
Burgess' charge sheet doesn't make pretty reading, either. He's here, now. I'm not overly impressed, but we've got him.
Good luck. He (and us) will need it.
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| On reflection I am delighted with this appointment. This guys an absolute winner. When I read the rest of the clubs laughing and mocking the appointment it only strengthens my belief.
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| In the immediate future, is understood the club are set to bring in an additional coach to assist Chambers and Richard Marshall, who will remain as assistant coach when Burgess takes over, for the rest of the year.
A second assistant coaching appointment is set to be announced in due course, the club have said.
Reading that does that mean Marshall will not be part of the first team coaching at the end of the year.
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| Quote: karetaker "In the immediate future, is understood the club are set to bring in an additional coach to assist Chambers and Richard Marshall, who will remain as assistant coach when Burgess takes over, for the rest of the year.
A second assistant coaching appointment is set to be announced in due course, the club have said.
Reading that does that mean Marshall will not be part of the first team coaching at the end of the year.'"
The back-rower, who also won five Test caps for England in union during an ill-fated spell with Premiership side Bath, will have ex-Salford and Halifax boss Richard Marshall as an assistant
That was copied from the BBC site
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| The press release says "Richard Marshall will remain as assistant coach with a further update about a second assistant to be announced in due course"
Burgess, long/gleeson and marshall sounds good to me. I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.
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| Quote: CW8 " I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.'"
So was Briers.
But when he was an assistant to Steve Whatsisname, our rugby was, at best, turgid
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| Quote: CW8 "The press release says "Richard Marshall will remain as assistant coach with a further update about a second assistant to be announced in due course"
Burgess, long/gleeson and marshall sounds good to me. I'd prefer long because on the pitch he was one of the best at organising an attack and controlling field position that I've ever seen.'"
Yeh didn’t we just hate that in his playing days Still preferred Briers but Long maybe had a better team around him in his time.
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