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| I would certainly like to keep Clark and Currie. Mata'utia is doing a fine job this season, but maybe this will be his swansong. Minikin and Longstaff, not really fussed about either way, really. What's important, though, is to look at the bigger picture around retention and recruitment, and avoid the disastrous scenario we had last year with multiple contracts up at the same time. That can't be allowed to happen again.
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| Quote ="fez1"I'd love to keep Clark and hope we can, but I have a sneaking suspicion he'll be off the Oz on the back of a great year with us. We'd have to either give him a long term contract of a very handsome short term one.
There is absolutely no reason why he should settle for anything less.
I hope Currie has a good year. He's a skillful player but I think he's not been consistent enough or at the level he was at before his injuries - and that's a few years ago now. If he can't have a decent year behind our other forwards then I could see DP looking elsewhere. But for me he is the type of player DP likes. Time will tell.
Matautia has been rumoured to be retiring, Minikin may have come to the end of his stay (maybe 1 more year?), and disappointingly I can't see Longstaff coming back.'"
The ship had sailed for Clark to Oz about 2 years or more ago. He’s too old for them, too old for the next World Cup too.
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| Assuming Peter M is on the quota I wouldn’t keep him next season. I suspect we will have to improve Danny Walkers contract which could see Clark being allowed to leave.
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| Clark - yes, but on a lower salary
Currie - I'm 50/50. Maybe offer him a 1 year deal.
Minikin - no
Matautia - no. We've got wrench, ratchford has another year and we are actively pursuing a centre allegedly.
Longstaff - I like him, but its blatantly clear his future will be away from Warrington.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The ship had sailed for Clark to Oz about 2 years or more ago. He’s too old for them, too old for the next World Cup too.'"
Yes - I suppose 30 could be too old for Oz, but in 2025 he could still be at the top of his game. I think age is irrelevant in a World Cup consisting of 6 or 7 matches if the form is there.
I've no idea how 'highly paid' he is and I doubt the vast majority of posters on here don't, but - a bit like Chris Hill - I think he could command a decent deal - be it salary and/or length of contract - with the majority of SL clubs.
Yes, we have Danny Walker and I could imagine him getting an improved contract when the time comes, but DC is still our number one hooker imo and having the 2 of them on the field later in the game works for me.
Would I bring in a hooker to replace Daz? Well that wouldn't be my preference.
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| Next season would be Clark's 10th for Warrington. Wouldn't he be due a testimonial? If so, that would be a strong motivation to want to stay with us.
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| Roby is still going so Clark as got to be worth at least a 2 year deal, if he only gets offered 1 then he will surely go elsewhere.
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| Quote ="fez1"Yes - I suppose 30 could be too old for Oz, but in 2025 he could still be at the top of his game. I think age is irrelevant in a World Cup consisting of 6 or 7 matches if the form is there.
I've no idea how 'highly paid' he is and I doubt the vast majority of posters on here don't, but - a bit like Chris Hill - I think he could command a decent deal - be it salary and/or length of contract - with the majority of SL clubs.
Yes, we have Danny Walker and I could imagine him getting an improved contract when the time comes, but DC is still our number one hooker imo and having the 2 of them on the field later in the game works for me.
Would I bring in a hooker to replace Daz? Well that wouldn't be my preference.'"
Clark is on the final year of a multiplier contract that has him as our 2nd marquee. I doubt very much he’d be offered marquee money. Any contract extension may take some time to finalise as he weighs up rival offers.
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| It's too early in the season to really judge who we should keep, other than Longstaff who looks as if he isn't in our future plans.
With there being only 5 out of contract and Longstaff being out on loan, there won't be that many changes next year, which is a good thing in my view, given the turnover in the squad during 2022.
Should we recruit the rumoured NRL centre and then should we need a quota spot, then the likely candidate to make way is Mata'utia. With Clark and Currie, it might come down to terms offered as to whether they stay. This may be influenced by any improved terms to any of our squad members to ward off any potential suitors, especially if we have have a successful season.
Minikin is cover, and I'm not bothered either way.
At this stage, we have competition for places, and I hope this continues as that should be enough incentive for any of the five to make themselves indispensable with good performances.
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| Not seen much of Aiden Doolan yet, so it will be interesting to see how he goes in our 1st team as hooker.
With Danny Walker as the heir apparent to Clark, if Doolan gets his opportunity and does well, I can see Clark being allowed to leave owing to Salary Cap constraints.
I can`t see Currie leaving, but it depends on his contractual demands.
As Powell demonstrated last season, he can be ruthless and it won`t be as easy for players` agents to over egg their demands as it has been in the past.
I think Matautia will be allowed to leave.
He is a quota player, we have Wrench who should play regularly at centre and we have recently rumoured to be linked with a NRL centre.
We can`t currently sign another overseas player, without releasing one of our current ones.
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| I've just watched the first half of the KR game.
Clark is playing out of his skin
Ratchford has a new lease of life
Matautia is playing well
There is a great team spirit
We are miles better than last year.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Clark is on the final year of a multiplier contract that has him as our 2nd marquee. I doubt very much he’d be offered marquee money. Any contract extension may take some time to finalise as he weighs up rival offers.'"
What is a multiplier contract?
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| im not party to how much Clark and Currie are being paid, but know enough to think that both will need to take a decent sized pay cut to stay.
My guess is there will be other clubs, waiting in the wings with better deals... So we could lose both.
Clark could have a testimonial with another year... so that could be a nice bargaining tool.... Currie will likely end up at the highest bidder.
im not really fussed on the others. The NRL centre rumoured to be coming, is probably a direct swap for matatutia
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| Quote ="fez1"What is a multiplier contract?'"
Oh god, whyyyyyyy did you ask that
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| I was all for getting rid of Clark, but now I’d be pretty desperate to keep him. Maybe not marquee money but certainly a high earner. Wouldn’t want to see Clark at Wigan or Saints.
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| Clark will be here, so will Currie, Mata'utia i can see getting a 1 year contract. I assume it'll be either Minikin or Russell who stays and i'd prefer Russell.
Longstaff was gone last year, there was no way especially after his loan this year he was coming back.
If we are chading a centre i assume it would be Gildart, but i hope not and hope Wrench is our starting centre next year.
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| Quote ="fez1"What is a multiplier contract?'"
Perhaps I’ve not used the correct term.
But it’s a tiered contract.
For scenario & example.
A club is hit by C-19 but wants to keep the best player but are basically running debt.
So to manage the debt through the pandemic, a contact like, year 1 - £100k, year 2 - £200k, year 3 - £300k.
Those figures are my own and used only to explain the ‘multiplier’ tiered contract I referred.
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| Clark is currently playing as well as I have seen him. He has often looked as if he has been playing injured but not now. This loose forward role is really suiting him & even when we get our extra big boys back playing it would be wise to give him some time in that position. With a few more forwards about it would also be handy to give him the odd spell on the bench ... he deserves it.
Not many like him about ... keep him.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Clark will be here, so will Currie, Mata'utia i can see getting a 1 year contract. I assume it'll be either Minikin or Russell who stays and i'd prefer Russell.
Longstaff was gone last year, there was no way especially after his loan this year he was coming back.
If we are chading a centre i assume it would be Gildart, but i hope not and hope Wrench is our starting centre next year.'"
Agree with that last part I’d prefer Wrench over Gildart.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I’ve not used the correct term.
But it’s a tiered contract.
For scenario & example.
A club is hit by C-19 but wants to keep the best player but are basically running debt.
So to manage the debt through the pandemic, a contact like, year 1 - £100k, year 2 - £200k, year 3 - £300k.
Those figures are my own and used only to explain the ‘multiplier’ tiered contract I referred.'"
EH?
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| Anyone got a slide rule.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Perhaps I’ve not used the correct term.
But it’s a tiered contract.
For scenario & example.
A club is hit by C-19 but wants to keep the best player but are basically running debt.
So to manage the debt through the pandemic, a contact like, year 1 - £100k, year 2 - £200k, year 3 - £300k.
Those figures are my own and used only to explain the ‘multiplier’ tiered contract I referred.'"
Any chance you can Try explaining this again for me, like I'm 5 years old.
How was covid 19 anything to do with daryl clark's contract that was signed in 2019? (Aside from the two instances of 19)
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| I thought weighted contracts were deemed against the spirit of the Salary Cap?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Any chance you can Try explaining this again for me, like I'm 5 years old.
How was covid 19 anything to do with daryl clark's contract that was signed in 2019? (Aside from the two instances of 19)'"
I was asked to explain and I said a ‘scenario’ how a building contract might be used or set up. It’s not Clark!
I stated I don’t know the details of Clark’s contract. His contract might have been signed when we had 2 marquees or as future deal on another.
I’m sure there can’t only be Clark and/or Wire who have this type of contact. It may even be Currie who is/was also on it.
Thanks for the info on Clark’s contract signing btw.
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| IIRC Walker was given an extended contract last year to end of 2025 so it can safely be assumed he stays hence his improved game time. Clark is increasingly being used as an extra middle and this is likely the way forward for him at the club. If he’s happy he stays if not he moves on. The unknown factor is the possible testimonial after 10 years service which certainly paid a part in Curries last renewal. However having seen Charnley granted one last week who knows.
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