I'd say it was Kear who was sacked too soon and Sharp who basically took Kears side to the play offs, of course it depends how you view it. However Sharp failed when he brought in his own players so make of that what you will. Hull fans seem split on this.

So to answer your question I'd take Kear any day. However because in general boards and chairman seem to leave Aussie coaches alone but seem to think they know better than British coaches your club would probably benefit from an Aussie.

That doesn't make them better coaches it is more a reflection on how deferential we are to Aussies both coaches and players.

There is no secret to Kears success at Wakey, he has simply had time to implement his style without much pressure or interference. Can you imagine a spend happy board sanctioning the signing of Richard Moore at the time Kear did. There egos and obsession with big names would have seen them laughing it out of site. Yet at Wakey it was allowed with reservation and Kear was proved right as he continually is with players. He simply would not get the chance or time at Warrington.

As Cullen said Wakey don't give a toss about reputations, Warrington do and until they stop it you are stuffed.

Matt King is a fine player but did you really need him or was it just the name. No point having a star winger if your pack is beaten and your halves only fire occasionally.

That is how I see it FWIW.

He doesn't need anyone because they're already at the club! Kear had a hip operation and missed a fair bit of the preseason training. But in Broadbent and Sanctuary he has individuals who are more than capable of stepping up and leading the team.

Whilst it's easy to send all the plaudits Kears way, alot of praise for Wakefield's start must lay with Sanctuary and Broadbent, the guys who have been spending the majority of the time with the players.

Only just picked up on this thread as I was wondering what was happening at the laughing stock this week. I laughed my head off at the negative comments you have made about John Kear with many of you claiming he would lack ambittion and drive to achieve success. You lot get what you deserve you wouldnt know a good coach if it mowed you down on the M62. Cullen followed by bog eye and then you say Kear isnt up to it. So funny you really are - the board, the coach the supporters and all .

We do know a good coach, one with a title winning pedigree who will give us every chance of success. So why would we want John Kear?

As for laughing stock, that ended today with the appointment of Tony Smith. I guarantee we will finish above Wakefield this season.

You should really be worrying about staying in Super League the next time the franchaises are up for renewal.

1: Smith took over a team already on the up, there is no guarantee he will repeat that at Warrington. Take note of his world cup exploits.

2: Do you really believe a part time Tony Smith is the answer, again you're falling for a reputation.

3: If you think you will finish above us fine it's all about opinions.

4: What has the franchise got to do with it.

So I guess we won't get Kear then

The thing with Warrington is that you still think you are a big club. The thing you dont get is that Kear, I and all the Wakefield team and supporters think that we are a far superior team to you. Project Kear at Belle Vue is progressing nicely. You are a shower, bog eyes and oz (flexitime). I will happily take your money on who is the best team over the season. We are - well coached, well drilled, well disciplined and physicaly and mentaly superior you and the majority of other Super League teams. Get with the real world my firend and look at the times weve beat you in recent meetings.

What sort of money are you offering? I'll take a bet on who finishes higher in the regular season, Wire or Wakefield...

What odds are you giving me?

its an even bet

1. Obviously there is no guarantees with anything, but I reckon the squad we have now compares favourably with the Leeds team Smith took over, just needs some serious direction. Plus we have some good young players, and our youth development sorted with Bastion in charge of that area. International RL is different altogether, he is proven at club level.

2. When have I fallen for a reputation in the past? Please explain.

3. Fair point.

4. Just responding to a Wakefield fan mocking our club, by suggesting that Trinity may struggle to get a franchaise next time around.

Nothing like confidence, and that is nothing like confidence.

I think Smith is a good appointment, as he will have the respect of the players, and if he is tough with them, he might get the most out of them. Unfortunately, I get the impression that to put things right, he has to deal with the players off the pitch as well as on.

You speak English?

I reckon you'd get a lot of takers on betfair for what you're offering.

Hold up! You have a monster head start. It should be weighted in our favour.

LOL - Warrington think they are a big club, but one of their own supporters sees us as an even bet to finish ahead of them. Just proves my point you think youre better than you actually are. You cant beat a champion team matey boy! Anyone got better odds?

You came on our forum boasting and cock sure about your team in comparison so ours, so I thought you would jump at even odds?

Yes thats sums it up



You will turn it around and finish the season well, anyone want to bet

Laughing like a drain.
OK if Warrington are a huge club why can't you overcome 6pts (with a game in hand) with 23 ROUNDS TO PLAY. Youve all proved my point - you like to say your a big club with massive potential - but deep down you all know your not.

We have a modern stadium which has been used for Internationals and NL1 Grand Finals, and are one of the few clubs to be granted an 'A' grade license which makes us untouchable.

You have a poor excuse for a stadium with council flats at one end, which ultimately will see you denied a Super League franchaise next time around, unless you merge with Castleford.

A champion team? Remind me what you've been the champions of again.

If you offer someone a one on one bet like this, its obviously going to be for even money. For example, if I bet with one of my mates that Liverpool will finish higher than Man United next season, the winner would get a tenner. Not if he wins I pay him 8 pounds, whereas if I'm right its 12.50 for me.

He was joking. There's no way wakefield will finish higher than warrington this year, end of discussion really. If you want to throw your money away thats your call.

champions of you last week mate. whooped you like you were cheeky little boys.
Stick to football mate - a warrington style game - all a load of posers in love with themselves - just like you know who.

Just remind me what exactly Kear has 'achieved' at Wakefield? If simply surviving relegation(which is not an issue anymore) is all you aim for you may as well employ cullen as that is what he is good at. Your fans are all so over the moon at beating us it just proves we are a big scalp. We'll only have to play you for 2 more years anyway and then we will get a real derby back when widnes or leigh take your place.

JK has managed to build a half decent team on limited resources. Yes, we are far from the best in SL, but on our day we can beat anyone else in SL

Wakey are not "over the moon" at beating you...you are not that good a team and we all expected to beat you anyway. The level of the victory was nice, but not totally unexpected.

As for the next franchises...shall we wait and see. In any event, you would still lose to Widnes or Leigh.

I suggest you focus on how the Wire are doing and let us worry about Wakey!

As i have stated, Kear is a top bloke and a very good coach, but i think the praise for him goes slightly over the top like it does for Harry Redknapp in football. We are not a big club as you rightly say, I compare us to Newcastle in football. Big crowds and nice stadium does not equal big club. However, we have the financial resources and the playing personnel to be challenging saints and leeds and that is why we do not want Kear. It is not his type of job.