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Roland Phillips: a player that seemed more popular with the crowd than with the coaching staff. The last I heard he was coaching the Welsh Ladies RU team. Nice work if you can get it..

I notice that RD has John Bevan as his Wire Legends right wing. Surely the No2 shirt should be a walk in for Brian Bevan..a player that epitomises the term Legend. Also, from memory John played predominantly on the left, as both centre and wing.

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1. Davies
2. John Bevan
3. Bateman
4. Blake
5. Drummond
6. Murphy
7. Gregory
8. Boyd
9. Mann
10. Morley
11. Martyn
12. Roberts
13. Gregory

14. Monaghan
15. Westwood
16. Sculthorpe
17. Harris

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "1. Davies
2. John Bevan
3. Bateman
4. Blake
5. Drummond
6. Murphy
7. Gregory
8. Boyd
9. Mann
10. Morley
11. Martyn
12. Roberts
13. Gregory

14. Monaghan
15. Westwood
16. Sculthorpe
17. Harris'"


Love that starting 13 BBW (only kidding) My only changes and I'd love to watch your team would be Hicks on the wing sorry Dessie, Gordon at scrum half and Tamati at nine. When I first joined the forum I had Gregory at 7 in a best ever Wire team thread but I'm not sure that this is the same thing.

As for your bench happy with Monaghan but I'd have a spot for Bob Eccles and Mike Nicholas. I'm not sure about Westwood, sure he's a Wire legend but I'm not sure he's an impact player if that doesn't sound daft?

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Quote: silver2 "Roland Phillips
How old do you think I am?
Tbh I did see Brian Bev play...at John Bevan testimonial.

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Quote: rubber duckie "How old do you think I am?
Tbh I did see Brian Bev play...at John Bevan testimonial.'"


I saw him at Alex Murphys testimonial

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "I saw him at Alex Murphys testimonial'"

It may have been that. Either way I wasn't buying bullseye brown and woodbines at the time...more like dad buying me woodpecker cider and smiths salt n shake.
....I just remembered it was under floodlights and Bev scored to the right of the sticks attacking the fletcher end.

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Quote: rubber duckie "It may have been that. Either way I wasn't buying bullseye brown and woodbines at the time...more like dad buying me woodpecker cider and smiths salt n shake.
....I just remembered it was under floodlights and Bev scored to the right of the sticks attacking the fletcher end.'"



Warrington played a Salford side, and Brian Bevan only came on to the field in the second half to replace John Bevan who then switched sides to play for Salford.
It may have been under floodlights but they were not turned on as it was a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Brian did score at the Fletcher end.

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Big discussion on this last year on Radio Warrington - feel free to listen on https://www.spreaker.com/show/matthew-moorcrofts-show

I think we went for something like

1. Hodgson
2. John Bevan
3. Bateman
4. Davies
5. Brian Bevan
6. Briers
7. Parry Gordon
8. Boyd
9. Monaghan
10. Morley
11. Sculthorpe
12. Roberts
13. Gregory (capt)

14. Grose
15.Bob Jackson
16. Bath
17. Harris
Big discussion on this last year on Radio Warrington - feel free to listen on https://www.spreaker.com/show/matthew-moorcrofts-show

I think we went for something like

1. Hodgson
2. John Bevan
3. Bateman
4. Davies
5. Brian Bevan
6. Briers
7. Parry Gordon
8. Boyd
9. Monaghan
10. Morley
11. Sculthorpe
12. Roberts
13. Gregory (capt)

14. Grose
15.Bob Jackson
16. Bath
17. Harris


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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Warrington played a Salford side, and Brian Bevan only came on to the field in the second half to replace John Bevan who then switched sides to play for Salford.
It may have been under floodlights but they were not turned on as it was a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Brian did score at the Fletcher end.'"

Arh well 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Arh well 2 out of 3 ain't bad.'"

It's excellent by your standards

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "It's excellent by your standards'"


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Legends...
Bit of a creaky one, for me, as we've not had too many that's done any kind of longevity, from my time of watching, whilst holding down a great career. for me, you have to do a minimum of 5 or 6 seasons for qualification.
I'll have to take Parry Gordon and Mike Nicholas as a given, as I didn't see that much of their career.
Hesford,BevanJ, GregoryM are legends. Maybe Jacko, Kelly and Dessie , too.
The rest are "club greats", legends may be a term to high for some.
Briers. Frittered away the first 12 years of his career. What might have been
Davies and Bateman 2and 5 years, not long enough for me
Boyd and Morley. Similar, add their injury problems. Nah.
GregoryA. Only 2 years, and did the dirty on us
Johnson 3 years
Westwood, Forster and Cullen. Great clubmen, but were limited players for chunks of their careers.
I've missed off a few, too Mann, Tamati, Roberts (injury finished him), Duane (injury hampered him)
Sculthorpe was a mere babe when he left (with disciplinary problems) and Harris engineered a move for himself. Plus our financial situation didn't help at the time. Had things been different, they may have stayed. If my auntie had testicles, etc.

Sorry if I've upset some on here. Club greats is an appropriate title for many of these. Legends? Not for me.

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Quote: lefty goldblatt "Legends...
Bit of a creaky one, for me, as we've not had too many that's done any kind of longevity, from my time of watching, whilst holding down a great career. for me, you have to do a minimum of 5 or 6 seasons for qualification.
I'll have to take Parry Gordon and Mike Nicholas as a given, as I didn't see that much of their career.
Hesford,BevanJ, GregoryM are legends. Maybe Jacko, Kelly and Dessie , too.
The rest are "club greats", legends may be a term to high for some.
Briers. Frittered away the first 12 years of his career. What might have been
Davies and Bateman 2and 5 years, not long enough for me
Boyd and Morley. Similar, add their injury problems. Nah.
GregoryA. Only 2 years, and did the dirty on us
Johnson 3 years
Westwood, Forster and Cullen. Great clubmen, but were limited players for chunks of their careers.
I've missed off a few, too Mann, Tamati, Roberts (injury finished him), Duane (injury hampered him)
Sculthorpe was a mere babe when he left (with disciplinary problems) and Harris engineered a move for himself. Plus our financial situation didn't help at the time. Had things been different, they may have stayed. If my auntie had testicles, etc.

Sorry if I've upset some on here. Club greats is an appropriate title for many of these. Legends? Not for me.'"


Fair comment, I don't think that anyone could be upset by your opinion and FWIW Club Greats/Club Legend whats the real difference if it relates to a club? Yes I read the qualification process in your post but you could surely arrive for a short stay one or two seasons and totally transform a team's fortunes.

It's not as if the thread title or subsequent posting has any reference to that really over used term World Class

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Quote: Uncle Rico "Fair comment, I don't think that anyone could be upset by your opinion and FWIW Club Greats/Club Legend whats the real difference if it relates to a club? Yes I read the qualification process in your post but you could surely arrive for a short stay one or two seasons and totally transform a team's fortunes.

It's not as if the thread title or subsequent posting has any reference to that really over used term World Class'"

I think there is a difference between a great and a legend, Rico.
Several that I've mentioned also fit into your transformation idea. The Peter Higham buys of Boyd, Tamati, GregoryA, Blake, Johnson gave us a massive fillip, especially after the Bowden 84/5 debacle.
The signing of Gleeson and John's upped our profile by a million percent, likewise Langer, Nickau, McCurrie and Gee.

The term World Class is thrown about like wedding confetti, these days. When I've witnessed the likes of Langer, Meninga, Hanley, Robinson, Daley, Fittler, in the flesh, I shuddered.. The Aussie midweek teams were a joy to watch in those days, too.
Don't get me wrong, Lockyer, Slater, Smith et al are world class, but with the rugby of the last decades being a tad robotic, I can't bracket them together.

Terrible fella, me

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