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All the talk of playoffs, squad rotation and resting doesn't wash for me.

Really, how late are we planning on leaving it to develop some sense of form? Surely you can't go into a playoff series totally cold. I just don't see it.

Yes, I know the weekly rounds are a 'joke' since Leeds won it from 5th but we're conning ourselves to some extent if we expect it all to just 'click' come sept/october.

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Quote: wiretilidie08 "Resting all these players is becoming pathetic now.. Tony Smith willl and deservedly so take a big chunk of the blame for today, how many games have we just scraped through this season and we've gone home thinking we've got away with that, get the best team out week in week out and get some form going again. Its becoming ridiculous as a fan that pays to go to every game when you get there and so many players have been rested, i understand resting maybe 1 of waterhouse/westwood/carvell every now and then.. but resting basically all our playmaking leaders? pffft. And to make all those changes aswell as bringing in Evans Myler and Solomona from long lay offs was frankly a very amateur decision.'"



Pretty much spot on.

ATEOTD, this is now an entertainment business. It's not like it was 20 years or so, ago, where people turned up and wanted their team to win BECAUSE IT MEANT SOMETHING. We are now just turning up at the HJ 13 times a year, and (for those that do it), go and travel to away games for a litteral "jockeying" position. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY TO FOLLOW A TEAM NOWADAYS, and it seems like we're all "peeing it up the wall" for such a tiny amount of recognition.

RL, now, reminds me of these cycling "events" that you see in a velodrome.
A few laps of #### all, when they are all messing about, and no-one's trying, and then....BANG, everyone's running around like a blue d fly, at the end.

We need to have a proper recognition for the LLS.....they go automatically into the GF.

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I have missed more games this year than in the last 20+ years. It only seems anything like a proper game when we play Wigan or Saints.

Tonight was a joke. It was like a lower division game, awful.

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It is a symbol of how far we have come over the last few years that performances that were not all that uncommon for many years before TS cause this much of an inquest into what went wrong

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Quote: billyboy.shaw "no direction at all from the halves shows that under no cicumstances must dick and dom play together EVER again the sooner we get chase the better i would not have myler or obrien selling pies never mind playing!!!!!!!'"


This post is so dense light bends round it. To blame two young talented halves when all those around them couldn't catch the ball, pass the ball, make yards or stop giving away penalties is ludicrous in the extreme. Oh, and Salford played pretty well too.

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I'm a fan of Warrington from afar and I have got say that was one the most abject performances I have seen in recent times.
They truly deserved the 'y Warrington' jibe.

Everything they did was terrible until near the end.
Penalty-try ad infinitum.

Even with absences there were some so-called stars on show in the Warrington side, but it looked like Salford were playing a Championship side. Plus Warrington didn't look like they were bothered.
Terrible!

Smith was resigned to sipping his bottled water, chewing his gum and smiling ruefully.
Hang your head Tony.

Well done Salford for throwing the ball about.

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Tonight was just odd for me and annoying

Its one thing playing round and rotating the squad but tonight was just plain stupid and disrespectful from TS in my opinion and in a way I'm glad we were punished. Too many players being asked to come straight back in after so long out and be up to speed, and poor positioning of players ie Cooper in 2md row.

Myler and Evans were way off the pace defensively. Cooper an absolute liability in defense, and wood likewise in attack.

Credit to Salford though. They battered us and rightly so.

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The better team won on the night end of.

TS put a team he thought was good enough to beat Salford, for me to many average performances.

No point blaming one person its a team game everyone is to blame.

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This is the first time that I've been angry towards Smith, but we could just be looking for an excuse, which in my opinion under values the confident and disciplined play from Salford and kinda lets our players off the hook. The players were shocking tonight.

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Quote: wiretilidie08 "Resting all these players is becoming pathetic now.. Tony Smith willl and deservedly so take a big chunk of the blame for today, how many games have we just scraped through this season and we've gone home thinking we've got away with that, get the best team out week in week out and get some form going again. Its becoming ridiculous as a fan that pays to go to every game when you get there and so many players have been rested, i understand resting maybe 1 of waterhouse/westwood/carvell every now and then.. but resting basically all our playmaking leaders? pffft. And to make all those changes aswell as bringing in Evans Myler and Solomona from long lay offs was frankly a very amateur decision.'"


spot on , arrogance of the highest order from tony smith , surely he as done enough rotation now gotta build some momentum end of the day there are just 8 league games left

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I think it's important that we have players good to go for the Semi Final then we can concentrate on putting a run together in the Leauge.
Keep the faith, people might want to remember how far we have come under Smith. "Come back Jimmy all is not right" MY icon_ass.gif

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Tony Smith cocked up last night and pretty much admitted it. We'll move on.

I don't think people are giving Salford enough praise though. They were absolutely electric. Speaking to a Salford fan on the walk back to the car, he said that they have been playing a lot of good stuff like that but for only 60 minutes (With a few exceptions) and then theyve been losing late on. Why then don't the Salford fans turn out to watch them? The home support last night was embarrassing and the excuse of a crappy stadium can't be used. Very strange.

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Can I just say that if we put all the players back in for one off games we will get a disjointed, scratchy performance.

Particularly obvious last night in defence, nobody could trust their inside defender and the separation of the players in the line was down to not being used to playing together; no more so than the edge defence with Riley, Blythe and Myler.

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Quote: mark_m "Where was Monas tonight?'"


Was expected to play all week, but ended up failing the RFL head-test following his injury in collision last week against Hull.

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Tony thought the team he put out were good enough to win. We had a lot of good players on that pitch, a lot didn't show up or were absolutely dreadful. A lot of blame lies with them lads on the pitch because every one of them could have done so much more than they did (understatement!).

But then with Michael and Joel, Briers, Westwood, Atkins, Hodgeson, Carvell, Grix all out; and Morley, Myler, Solomona, Evans all playing without having recent SL game time... we're on to a loser straight away.

But let's not take anything away from Salford. We could have had all twelve of those players above bang in form but last night's Salford could have just been unbeatable. Sometimes a team is just so in form and everything clicks that it doesn't matter what is in front of them, they'll still win. It's like that the Challenge Cup final of 2010, I don't think Queensland would have beaten us that day, we were just unstoppable! Sometimes that happens.

We need to dust ourselves down and move on now. Our two most important games of the season are coming up. Catalan have two games in hand and a game against us. If things go their way they could be 3 points ahead of us in a few weeks time. We cannot allow that to happen. We must finish in the top two. Then we have the CC semi-final against Huddersfield.

The season starts now. Things need to start clicking I to place. Set plays need to start coming off, timing of runs and passes need to start to be spot on, defensive sets need to be smoother, players need to start playing every week and gaining form. It's July tomorrow, the season starts now.

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