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Didn't Scully captain Warrington at 17?

Personally I am encouraged that they will promote from within the squad, not before time that we start to utilise the structures being put into place at youth levels. Mind you I had heard that we were due to make one more signing, surprised that is no longer happening.

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Quote: MacBlondie "Worrying times to be a wolfs fan. Saints and Leeds have recruited brilliantly whilst Warrington will have to rely on an ageing squad across the board.

Sure you can win a couple of challenge cups by playing nobodies and then getting lucky against a Leeds side who didnt turn up, but I cant see the wolfs doing anything other than choking again when it comes to knockout rugby.'"



Isn't it nice to see stupidity is still with us...
anyway, back on track
We've had the usual "it's going to have to be a big season for....", but the one we need a big season from, is Carvell. At best this season he's been above average, at worst he's been v. poor. Yes, I know he's had a bad injury, but we need him to step up again. I don't want him to be a one season wonder (2009).
Woody has been streets ahead of him this year. I'd give Cooper plenty of game time next season if Carvell fails to hit form. I hope Mr Smith gets rutheless next season.

Tyrone, Mitchell, Blythe etc NEED to perform next season. What bits I saw of them on a Thursday night, didn't exactly have me in raptures.

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Quote: Rob Wire "Iestyn Harris must have been close to 17 when he played for us.'"


Didn't Chris Riley play in the 2005 season when Andrew Johns was here? He seems to have been around for ages. I reckon he's the new Stanley Gene!

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Quote: SaintsFan "Have we? We have bought Josh Perry in to replace Maurie. He's 29. We've also bought Shenton and LMS, both early-mid 20s. But that's it. We have bought one new player for each of the last two seasons (Tony Puletua for 2009, Soliola for 2010 allegedly although he's been missing for most of it!) while dispatching about seven of our experienced players. All the players who have been covering for injuries over the last two seasons have been young guys of 19 and 20 years old. McManus et al have been wise and managed well the transition from an ageing squad to what will probably be the youngest squad in Superleague next year. We will also have a high number of locally produced players in our squad.

With Gidley leaving at the end of this season and having never replaced Talau, we will have no specialist centres next season and unfortunately our youth system hasn't coughed any up. Hence we bought Shenton. Wheeler will likely continue playing at the other centre, assuming he can remain fit, unless that is going to be Meli's last hurrah.

Two props aren't enough, as we have discovered when one has been on long term injury (Maurie). Hence, we've bought both Josh Perry and LMS. Maurie leaves this season. Of course, Cunningham also leaves this season and next we will have a Moore/Roby combo.

No doubt Tony Smith is now starting the same process with Warrington that we began two seasons ago at Saints.'"


This is good analysis. A few people have commented on Saints making good signings for next year which they have done I especially like Perry, but in terms of net comings and goings over the past couple of seasons Saints have probably lost more talent than they have signed. They will have to make up the difference with the improvements of younger players (which they might well do). I think Saints next year will be one of the teams in the mix for trophies but at the moment I reckon Wigan are going to be the front runners in squad quality, with us, Saints and Leeds the others who can credibly win trophies. In most cases losing an iconic player like Cunningham would have been catastrophic (look at what happened to Wigan and Sydney Roosters when Farrell and Fittler left) but Saints have Roby who is in Cunningham's calibre, so they will be able to ride it out.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "A few people have commented on Saints making good signings for next year which they have done I especially like Perry, but in terms of net comings and goings over the past couple of seasons Saints have probably lost more talent than they have signed. '"

Yes, we have. We had to do what we have done because they were all ageing at the same time! In the space of two seasons we will have gone from having the oldest squad to the youngest, which is pretty drastic really, but has been founded on some good fortune in that our young players came from the Grand Final winning academy side of 2008.

Given that Wire u20s have done well this year in that they have been at the top of the tree for so much of the season, I would imagine now is a good time for Smith to begin integrating the more talented among them into the first team squad. They will make mistakes but there is nothing quite like watching the enthusiasm of young players and also the way in which they develop as the season progresses. We've been particularly impressed by Jamie Foster at Saints, who turned 20 only a few weeks ago.

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Haven't we had quite a few of the U20's training with the first team squad full time towards the end of the season? I know the Evans twins were two of them plus another 6 or so. Smith might already be working his magic

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realitycheck wolvesareanageingside whichlackspace athalfback and powerinthe packl sell king briers andcarvell andbringin a topclass standoff alongside myler and two powerful forwards wigan and saints have bought reallywell fornextseason justremember how saints andhudderfield ripped wireapart intheplayoffs a32yearoldfullback isnottheanswer moran overtoyou

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Quote: hesford "realitycheck wolvesareanageingside whichlackspace athalfback and powerinthe packl sell king briers andcarvell andbringin a topclass standoff alongside myler and two powerful forwards wigan and saints have bought reallywell fornextseason justremember how saints andhudderfield ripped wireapart intheplayoffs a32yearoldfullback isnottheanswer moran overtoyou'"


why the lack of spaces... surely they teach you that at school?

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Quote: wearethewire "why the lack of spaces... surely they teach you that at school?'"

sorry you halfwit just trying to educate you about next season this is an agingside which needs a class halfback and at least two big forwards not just me saying this but thegreat mike nicko icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Quote: hesford "sorry you halfwit just trying to educate you about next season this is an agingside which needs a class halfback and at least two big forwards not just me saying this but thegreat mike nicko
3 posts in and still I can't fathom a word he is ranting about... icon_confused.gif

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Quote: hesford "sorry you halfwit just trying to educate you about next season this is an agingside which needs a class halfback and at least two big forwards not just me saying this but thegreat mike nicko thanks for trying to 'educate' me i am fully aware of my own teams side...

halfwit? your reply still doesn't explain the lack of spaces

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Quote: hesford "sorry you halfwit just trying to educate you about next season this is an agingside which needs a class halfback and at least two big forwards not just me saying this but thegreat mike nicko

Your a real charmer aintcha! She was only trying to tell you to put spaces in your posts to make them more understandable.

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Quote: matty wire 75 "Your a real charmer aintcha! She was only trying to tell you to put spaces in your posts to make them more understandable.'"

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Not disappointed at all.

Hodgson is a top class full back. He may be getting on but can certainly do us a good job.
Mathers - when on form eg Challenge Cup - was brilliant and his contribution tio team morale was first class, but not consistent and too many chombos (cock ups).

1-20 Big time expeience

'Nearly' men (eg McCarthy, Mitchell, Blythe) - experience which will stand them in good stead.

No - things are looking up.

No problem in 'big signings' given the restrictions of the salary cap.

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