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Quote: JWP "Aside from 'Jammer', is there a better prop in SL, or World RL ?'"


Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment icon_confused.gif:

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
Yup.

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Quote: JWP "Yup.'"


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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.

527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.

Comparison of Graham and Carvell here

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Just to get this straight, are you saying that Carvell and Graham are possibly the best two props in World RL at the moment
According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.

527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.

Comparison of Graham and Carvell here

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009


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Quote: Wires71 "According to the statistics Graham is head and shoulders above any other front row forward in northern hemisphere RL. Averaging (per game) 190 meters, 2.5 tackle busts, 24 tackles, miss tackle rate of < 3.8%, < 0.7 errors, and < 0.3 penalties.

527 carries makes him top of the stats nearly 30% more than 2nd placed Peacock, also top of the meters stats with 3805, again, 30% more than Peacock. He is also averaging close on a try every 3 games.

Comparison of Graham and Carvell here



Depends how you look at it, Carvell makes more yards per carry for example.

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Don't forget were talking about World RL.

I'm not really disputing Graham but Carvell c'mon be serious.

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Quote: MD7 "Depends how you look at it, Carvell makes more yards per carry for example.'"


Indeed he does, and I am not criticising Carvell by any means. But given a choice between them for the Wire jersey and I would go for Graham in a heartbeat.

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Quote: SPIRIT OF 74 "not made of the stuff that a top SL player is made of either ,NL1 at Widnes should suite him IMO'"
Sorry but if you think bridge can only offer his services to a NL1 side then you are deluded!!! d040.gif

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Benny Westwood for me. Never stopped running and deserved his standing ovation when he came off.

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Quote: the ditch "Sorry but if you think bridge can only offer his services to a NL1 side then you are deluded!!!
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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Don't forget were talking about World RL.

I'm not really disputing Graham but Carvell c'mon be serious.'"


Name names.

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Quote: JWP "Name names.'"


Shane Tronc, Roy Asotasi, Steve Price, Moimoi and in England i would personally put Morley ahead of him due to his better defensive capabilities.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "Shane Tronc, Roy Asotasi, Steve Price, Moimoi and in England i would personally put Morley ahead of him due to his better defensive capabilities.'"


I'll give you Price and Asotasi, As for the other two, nah.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "I'll give you Price and Asotasi, As for the other two, nah.'"


What about Luke Douglas, Luke Stuart, Nathan Cayless icon_confused.gif:

Seriously there's a dozen Australians you could put before Carvell.

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Quote: Latchford Wolvesfan "What about Luke Douglas, Luke Stuart, Nathan Cayless
There's not, there's maybe a handful. Obviously it's a tough comparison as without seeing him in the NRL (Where I think he'd do well), and how many props from there have come here & been gash etc, Ryles, Rauhihi and god knows how many haven't lived upto the billing.

Nathan Cayless, he didn't tear up SL did he ?

For a prop to shine in SL is difficult really, we're an offence based competition, but in a weird way, I think this is Carvells strength, he breaks the line, he play at the line (the ball he gave Briers on Sunday), he makes good gains, I think he's excellent.

For me, there's not too many around that are better than him. Jammer being the obvious one.

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