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Quote: ratticusfinch "Sibbitt was rubbish and maintained that level at a baffled Melbourne and thereafter.'"

Rubbish is a touch strong, ratticus, but I know what you mean.

The best description I can give him, is "Johnny on the spot" kind of player, where he ALWAYS seemed to be in the right place at the right time (never a bad thing). The spade work had been done for him by Briers or Langer, and all he had to do was fall over the line with the ball. Melbourne's recruitment team must have seen who's scoring what, and jumped in,without watching him, before anyone else got him.

As for McGinty. Hilarious. He couldn't get a regular place on our bench.
The fore mentioned Bas Richards was ahead of him in the pecking order.. Wigann had an injury crisis, so Monie bought him. Within 5 months, he's playing Test Match rugby. Mind you, if you put a NORWEB jersey on an English made hatstand, it got upgraded to a GB one.

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Quote: The Speculator "How about Ian Sibbit? Good player for us but I was surprised when Melbourne signed him. Don't really recall how he went in the NRL but he didn't seem quite the same player when he came back.'"


This was a really strange signing. Somehow, Melbourne must have signed him, when they were really after Toa Kohe-Love.

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Wigan bulked McGinty up and when he went on tour to auss had a great tour in fact a total different player that played for us,..when he turned out for wire it was at LF 2nd row and the odd game at centre..pretty sure he played prop on tour...think Wigan got the better days out of him

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Andy Gregory didn’t need improve for his move to Wigan. His best rugby was always at Widnes.

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I think Sibbitt had a massive reputation because he was tearing it up in academy games. He used to stand out like a Sonny Bill or a Sam Burgess and used to power through the centres. That’s why so much was expected of him. Melbourne had probably been alerted to him and studied the tapes of those academy games and thought they could develop him into a star. Unfortunately he just never really stood out at senior level, which I suppose you could partly put down the fact that we were pretty rubbish even with Langer doing his best to pull the strings.

Luis Johnson could be put in the same bracket I suppose - he looked a monster at academy level.

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Quote: easyWire "I think Sibbitt had a massive reputation because he was tearing it up in academy games. He used to stand out like a Sonny Bill or a Sam Burgess and used to power through the centres. That’s why so much was expected of him. Melbourne had probably been alerted to him and studied the tapes of those academy games and thought they could develop him into a star. Unfortunately he just never really stood out at senior level, which I suppose you could partly put down the fact that we were pretty rubbish even with Langer doing his best to pull the strings.

Luis Johnson could be put in the same bracket I suppose - he looked a monster at academy level.'"

I've defended against this weird retrospective dislike of sibbit on here before, and I promised I'd stay away this time.

However, as you've rightly put, 1999 and 2000 season sibbit was a killer in the academy levels.

But when he got into the first team, daryl had him filling in at centre, which made no sense (if you recall during the disastrous 2001 season, we signed Kidwelly at centre who went awol with a mystery injury).

He then went to Melbourne for a year, and came back to a different coach, but likewise Cullen ended up playing him at centre for most of the year and even with his knee hanging off and taped up to .

He only really got a chance playing back row for us, in fits and starts in 2004, by which time he was getting garbage minutes around a backroom that was Darren burns and Mike forshaw, with a smattering of Paul noone.

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Andy Currier.
If he’d have gone on to play netball, he’d have played better than he did at Wire.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Andy Currier.
If he’d have gone on to play netball, he’d have played better than he did at Wire.'"


Centenary season, Higham and Johnson brought in 2 players that wire fans didn't want and had a previous dislike to, in currier and Mark Jones.

That was never gonna end well

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Quote: easyWire "Luis Johnson could be put in the same bracket I suppose - he looked a monster at academy level.'"


Louis Johnson never looked like "a monster" at Academy level with Warrington. He was completely underwhelming for our academy.

I would say his best performance for Warrington whilst an academy player was his first team debut at Wigan.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Andy Currier.
If he’d have gone on to play netball, he’d have played better than he did at Wire.'"

Did you HAVE to mention him?

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We had Bateman at the time and then the club offered him a derisory deal (about£20k/yr) because he was 'older'. Talk about being stupid.
Then the Aussies came in and gave him £70k per year and Warrington then decided they wanted him but it was too late by then.
So we ended up with Currier - who I thought was alright at Widnes - but wish he'd stayed there.

The sheer stupidity of the club - beyond words.
Not one of Brian Johnson's best moments. (Although I dont know what real say he had as opposed to Higham).

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Probably Karl Fitzpatrick's fault.

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I’ve not looked it up, but with either signed Currier from Featherstone or I watched him play shat for us up there.
Back in the day when I’d followed wire everywhere. I remember thinking to myself, instead of spending £50-60k on Currier, why not just have gave that to Bateman in his contract.?!
Hellooooooo!!!

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Quote: fez1 "We had Bateman at the time and then the club offered him a derisory deal (about£20k/yr) because he was 'older'. Talk about being stupid.
Then the Aussies came in and gave him £70k per year and Warrington then decided they wanted him but it was too late by then.
So we ended up with Currier - who I thought was alright at Widnes - but wish he'd stayed there.

The sheer stupidity of the club - beyond words.
Not one of Brian Johnson's best moments. (Although I dont know what real say he had as opposed to Higham).'"


Brian Johnson was utterly dismissive towards Bateman when he arrived, if you read Bateman's autobiography. Makes you wonder if Johnson ever rated or wanted him.

There is a bizarre story of where Bateman came to talk to Johnno, who was surrounded by fans who he was signing autographs for, and he just handed Bateman a piece of paper and said "here's the offer, take it or leave it". Bateman took it and then regretted it soon after.

Allan Bateman was my favourite player growing up, it's bizarre how underrated and shoddily treated he was.

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Quote: rubber duckie "I’ve not looked it up, but with either signed Currier from Featherstone or I watched him play shat for us up there.
Back in the day when I’d followed wire everywhere. I remember thinking to myself, instead of spending £50-60k on Currier, why not just have gave that to Bateman in his contract.?!
Hellooooooo!!!'"


Currier looked decent for Widnes, but who wouldn't in the team he was in? A pack that included Sorenson, Koloto; Davies, Tony Myler, Bobbie Goulding as playmakers at various times in front of him... Offiah on the wing. Alan Tait then Stuart Spruce - two of the best full-backs I've seen in the game - covering people's mistakes.

Darren Wright always struck me as the better of Widnes' two centres.

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