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| Quote: worthing wire "Phil Blake
Les Davidson
Les Boyd
Nigel Vagana would probably qualify too, had we signed him at the end of his career
I think technically you could class Blake and Davidson as short term loan deals and therefore I wouldn't say value for money.
Boyd may have a claim but he did spend a lot of his second period injured.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I think technically you could class Blake and Davidson as short term loan deals and therefore I wouldn't say value for money.
Boyd may have a claim but he did spend a lot of his second period injured.'"
Blake was at Warrington for over 3 years. Davidson was short term.
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I remember 89 very well; Blake on a loan deal like Davidson and them both being missing for the 89 semi at Maine Rd.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "I think technically you could class Blake and Davidson as short term loan deals and therefore I wouldn't say value for money.
Boyd may have a claim but he did spend a lot of his second period injured.'"
boyd did more injured than a large percentage of our pack...and he would of let them know about it aswell...he wouldnt of played half a game like most do
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| I guess we shouldn't forget that SL clubs will be getting an extra £600k I think it is from increased TV revenues from 2017 onwards. Of the 12 clubs SL only 1 isn't spending to the full cap I believe.
Surely with increased TV revenues this is affordable for all clubs? Plus te salary cap hasn't increased, even with inflation, for 10+ years. That means our players are earning the same now as they were 10 years ago, I'm not sure that's fair?
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| Quote: Alffi_7 "I guess we shouldn't forget that SL clubs will be getting an extra £600k I think it is from increased TV revenues from 2017 onwards. Of the 12 clubs SL only 1 isn't spending to the full cap I believe.
Surely with increased TV revenues this is affordable for all clubs? Plus te salary cap hasn't increased, even with inflation, for 10+ years. That means our players are earning the same now as they were 10 years ago, I'm not sure that's fair?'"
Widnes ain't spending to the cap.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "?
I remember 89 very well; Blake on a loan deal like Davidson and them both being missing for the 89 semi at Maine Rd.'"
Blake played the 85/86 season (legendary), and the 88/89 one (less good, but still brilliant).
Davidson may only have been a loan, that's true, but he was superb throughout his time at Wire - he was also an Origin player and Kangaroo when he came to us. His levels of effort and commitment even in just a short-term spell would put several recent recruits to shame.
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| Neither are Warrington spending full cap.
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Quote: St pete "Widnes ain't spending to the cap.'"
I based my assumption after reading this. I would guess he had a better idea than most, but accept it's not concrete evidence.
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RD whether we do spend the cap is irrelevant, everyone knows we have the ability to.
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Quote: St pete "Widnes ain't spending to the cap.'"
I based my assumption after reading this. I would guess he had a better idea than most, but accept it's not concrete evidence.
m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugb ... -1-7292473
RD whether we do spend the cap is irrelevant, everyone knows we have the ability to.
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| Phil Blake, Chris Hicks and Nigel Vagana were not [imarquee[/i signings.
They all went onto become hugely impressive players, provided some wonderful memories, made massive contributions to the P&B and were excellent value for money.
BUT, they were largely unknown before they arrived on these shores and THAT is my point. If we want value for money from our overseas signings, established internationals often brimming with ego, attitude and pay-demands have not generally provided the best value.
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| Quote: morrisseyisawire "Phil Blake, Chris Hicks and Nigel Vagana were not [imarquee[/i signings.
They all went onto become hugely impressive players, provided some wonderful memories, made massive contributions to the P&B and were excellent value for money.
BUT, they were largely unknown before they arrived on these shores and THAT is my point. If we want value for money from our overseas signings, established internationals often brimming with ego, attitude and pay-demands have not generally provided the best value.'"
Les Davidson and Les Boyd did, though. I'll gloss over Steve Roach.
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| Regardless how excellent Blake and Davidson were, like Morriseyisawire says....not value for money.
The return ended up as nil.
When we needed them most at Maine Rd they wasn't released back to play for us, I think they were both at Souths.
Peter Higham vowed after that, we would never to sign an Aussie overseas player on a short term contract ever again.
The season after Blake and Davidson were discarded by us and they became short term Pies instead.
Higham turned his attention to Welsh RU and NZ.
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| Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but can clubs have a home grown (£100k) & overseas signing (£175k) at the same time ? And does the home grown player have to have come through a clubs academy ?
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| Quote: Paul2812 "Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but can clubs have a home grown (£100k) & overseas signing (£175k) at the same time ? And does the home grown player have to have come through a clubs academy ?'"
club trained, or non club trained, and i believe its one or the other, so you can either keep hold of a superstar or buy in a superstar.
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| I think people are panicking over nothing saying the gulf between clubs will widen....WHY!!! Because some clubs will be able to sign 1 yes I repeat 1 high profile player and pay loads for him. It doesn't guarantee they will be amazing over here and tear other teams to pieces, look at Carney...injured for most of the year. This ruling will help every club for example, Michael Shenton is home grown and say for example he is on £150,000 a year currently. If cas use him as their marquee player then they will suddenly have an extra £60,000 to spend next year. To either bump up the contract offer for a bigger named player or buy another quality player they wouldn't have been able to get so it's win win. Not trying to sound arrogant because we can spend loads on a player but I genuinely think it is a good thing for all teams.
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