You can off trumpets! Every time I watch Leeds on Sky I have to mute the thing, horrible.

Talking of miserable gits, where have you been? Good to see you back now that we've got a pair of Bridges for you to moan about.

They are only trying to help! But in a nutshell you will find a meaningful match played at good intensity, normally under the floodlights, will see the atmosphere take care of itself.

I think the whole gameday experience has gone downhill - no more kill bill music beforehand, players not coming out to Muse Hysteria anymore with the lets get ready to rumble bit, no more cheeky music for the opposition to enter the fray to, no Sumo suits at half-time or half-time challenge....'when I were a lad we had all that' (in an old man voice) and I think those bits can help to generate more atmosphere. Plus get Lawrence Robinson back again 'Nessun Dormaaaaaaaaaa'

i detest the drumming.. some people just want to go and watch the rugby... last thing they want is a group of people banging drums down their earhole.

I moved out of the south stand to get away from it.

the drumming was ok a few years ago. Things have moved on now. Put your drums away and try to enjoy watching the game instead of making alot of noise with a musical instrument.

Any chance you could move down to the other (West End) corner?

As has been said, the atmosphere is generated on the pitch and dependant on the opposition/match importance/occasion. So often people refer to the Wilderspool atmosphere, the vast majority of the time I watched Wire at Wilderspool there were no drums! I think that in a way the drumming has killed the atmosphere as it seems there are no chants unless they are being driven by the drummers, and there is only so many dum de dum chants!

And incidentally, did it dawn on any of your '50' last Sunday that with 15 minutes to go people may have been going to the toilet rather than "Walk when we're winning"?

The thing is, since we have had no real leader in the south stand since Geordie gave up, no-one is there to create the atmosphere but is also respected by everyone enough to join in, I like that you try and create an atmosphere, but even myself, I hate home games, I prefer away where people join inane back the team, just because we are away from home and need to make ourselves heard and intimidate the other team with our noise, no-one likes coming to the HJ because of facing our team, I'd we make it loud and even more intimidating, then it will become a fortress

I blame Geordie for the lack of atmosphere

I don't think you need a drum to have a good atmosphere. Plenty of noise was made at Langtree Park without, as with other games where they have been absent. There must have been a 1:3 drum:supporter ratio in Keighley, snare drums the lot. Completely over the top, banging lots of drums like it is the charge of the light brigade doesn't create an atmosphere, it just drowns it out. One I can understand, but there is no need for a marching band.

Yeh but that was bcos it was a playoff and an away game. Its never the same at home

Did n't we have this subject the other day with a different title ?

Don't be daft, you're not suggesting for one minute that topics get recycled on here are you?

BTW I'm as guilty as anyone for joining in with the same old same old

But what does a four man drum kit achieve? I'm not knocking you btw, I just think that all a drum does is annoy people or just make them occasionally go der der der der a few times. No drum and people are a bit more creative etc. Correct me if I am wrong, there wasn't one at the KC but we still made a fair bit of noise between the small group of people who had travelled over, despite it being absolutely freezing.

This year I have been to all the away games, plus the LSV, York, Featherstone, Dewsbury and a couple of other SL games. I am struggling to think of a game where the home side has made noise, the only one I can think of is Leeds, maybe Craven Park. It's nothing unique to Warrington.

Spot on

easy .........stand in the middle of the South stand and bang it out.

All crowds sing and chant at sporting games anybody who doesn't want it .....play or watch dominoes or snooker.

When the team's back against the wall we go flat and so do they , the banter and singing is a sign of support it lifts the crowd and of course the team ......14th man etc etc. It's part and parcel of watching live competitive team sport.

Finally ...Geordie ....please come back for a few weeks and train the lads up .....