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Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.

Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.

Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.'"


Quite. The disaster is, the halfbacks Saints played today displayed a better kicking game than we have seen for a few weeks at Warrington.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Guys you are joint 4th. It's hardly a disaster.

Your on a losing streak one game longer than us.'"
Freefall as we"re speaking especially if Salford win.7th if they do.

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Quote: runningman29 "Freefall as we"re speaking especially if Salford win.7th if they do.'"


7th in table now even Wakefield at the bottom have scored more points than wire.

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Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.

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Quote: Tiz Lad "To be honest I'm not asking for you to agree not belittle a point of view.

A) the half back problems needed to be addressed and haven't. If he does see it, then why doesn't he do something about it. At present trying Dec Patton could not possibly do any worse than we're doing at present. Again and in my opinion Smith seems a lot more disinterested than ever. Perhaps he's planning his exit route, hence Agar appointment. But you have to agree something radical needs doing at half back.

B) Clark was fairly open on his first interview with the comment about hope to win things in the two years I'm here. I know news signed for 4, but that's what he said. Be is playing completely disinterested and is at present is just doing what any other hooker would do, ship it on.

Again in my opinion if something drastic is not done we're in big trouble'"


Those are perfectly reasonable opinions. I don't know whether anything "drastic" needs to be done but playing injured/unfit players( Bridge) and out of position players (lots) needs to stop...

I don't know how good Patton is but given fans attitudes to inexperienced young English lads I would fear for him if he ever started slowly. ...

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Quote: Tiz Lad "To be honest I'm not asking for you to agree not belittle a point of view.

A) the half back problems needed to be addressed and haven't. If he does see it, then why doesn't he do something about it. At present trying Dec Patton could not possibly do any worse than we're doing at present. Again and in my opinion Smith seems a lot more disinterested than ever. Perhaps he's planning his exit route, hence Agar appointment. But you have to agree something radical needs doing at half back.

B) Clark was fairly open on his first interview with the comment about hope to win things in the two years I'm here. I know news signed for 4, but that's what he said. Be is playing completely disinterested and is at present is just doing what any other hooker would do, ship it on.

Again in my opinion if something drastic is not done we're in big trouble'"


I can understand peoples frustration, but we need to be logical here. Currently Patton is playing for Crusaders, two levels below SL, and from what I can glean he is not dominating the play like a Danny Brough or Lee Briers. Asking him to step up and produce the goods at SL level looks a very tall order atm.

As for Clark, if he wants to play in the NRL and pick up a good wage, he needs to show he can produce the goods. A mediocre season in SL is not going to impress any NRL coaches. It therefore makes no sense for him to show a complete disdain for his current role, and furthermore would completely alienate the rest of the squad.

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Been looking for that interview Clark did in which he went on about the NRL without once bringing anything about his new club...can't for the love of me find it, i remember it bit can't find it.

The one striking thing with Clark is last year, watch his highlights, watch the games he played in...always a smile on his face, really enjoyed playing.
Looks miserable as sin here.

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Quote: Wire Yed "Been looking for that interview Clark did in which he went on about the NRL without once bringing anything about his new club...can't for the love of me find it, i remember it bit can't find it.

The one striking thing with Clark is last year, watch his highlights, watch the games he played in...always a smile on his face, really enjoyed playing.
Looks miserable as sin here.'"

I have a few mates from Cas and they are texting me every week saying how much it kills them seeing us not use the lad properly, he really seems frustrated too.

Clark was arguably the player of the Four Nations, because he was allowed to play with that freedom which back in 2011 Tony Smith used to pontificate about each week. We are currently playing like a dull Richard Agar club.

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Quote: Bobby_Peru "Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.'"


Lose to Cas on monday and we will be 9th , or in the unlikely event of a draw between Catalan and Widnes , 10th.

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It was only a few weeks back that the 4th placed team had their chief twittering that he had 'had enough'.

It's just a very tightly placed league. 1 win puts you into 3rd.

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Gonna be a four pointer against Wakefield now next Saturday..☺️

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Quote: 13>15 "Just looked at the table. Very depressing reading. Are for and against stats are pitiful.'"


Lose to Cas on monday and we will be 9th , or in the unlikely event of a draw between Catalan and Widnes , 10th.'"


Maybe the kick up the booty the club needs....concentrate the minds of coaches, players & our new CEO.

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Just looking at this topic thread and still thinking, do people really think we're as bad as the fateful 2002 season.

Because I don't.....

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I certainly don't.

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