Hello, I'm french, so my english isn't great...



I have seen them in the training, I spoke with Walters and I could see this team! (make sense?

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1-Greenshields
2-Bell
3-Carlaw
4-Fakir
5-Pelo
6-Mogg
7-Bosc
8-Ferriol
9-Mounis
10-Guisset
11-Elima
12-Gossard
13-Croker

Big centres!

A good point made by highwire. It's not just his defence that I question. He did seem shaky catching easy balls against Saints and he offers virtually nothing running the ball from dummy half which is an essential skill for a winger in the first few tackles of each set.

Think Jimmy will use Penny more of a back up player this season, if Gleeson was fit on Friday i dont think Penny would have played, think Jimmy, apart from Reardon sees the 17 he picks for Saturdays game as his first choice.

I predict a riot.

i am a little concerned about a word in your username, surely this may offend any lesbians on the board

People are assuming that Penny has been dropped, but I honestly think he wouldn't have played vs Saints if Gleeson had been fit.

Penny is the scapegoat, its not him that is leaving the the gaps is it Lee??

ridiculous scary centres, though i'd like to think that fakir is a target for gleeson's footwork.

Who was it on here who used to call it 'Escape Goat' ?

Agreed, after all the tripe is cut away, there is only one question that needs to be asked imo, that is "would we feel more comfortable with Johnson defending or Penny? Unfortunately for Kev i think the answer would be Johnson. If you look at where Kev stands in the defensive line he is not close enough to his centre, this disrupts the sliding defence on the left, therefore when King and the rest of the team slide to the left as the ball is put through the oppositions hands Kev has to move right in order to close the gap and get into the correct defensive position, this automatically puts him on the back foot, then he slides left with the rest of the team but it's too late by then.

Penny needs to be treated very carefully if he is to fulfil his potential. I think he needs 1st team rugby at the Co-Op Championship level to learn his trade. This will give him experience he so needs and take the pressure off him a bit.

My position on Penny is that he has got a lot of potential that at the moment isn't coming through at super league level. As somebody in this thread suggested, and myself elsewhere I think it could be a good idea to send him on loan to a strong team in nl1 where he could learn the game at a lower level. That said he has been made a scapegoat from last week.
Looking at the squad list and the way its listed I'd be worried at our left side with King centre and Johnson on the wing, no pace what so ever and I also don't want to see Bridge there as I think he is wasted on the wing.

Riley
Hicks
Gleeson(hopefully)
Bridge
King
Briers
Monaghan.

Thats what I'd go with although I'd prefer to see Bridge covering the halfs. Maybe Reardon to come in left wing when fit?

one of the genuine legends of the (recently lamented) word of the week running gag.


the picture of the goat on the jetski isn't on google any more, as far as i can see.

Penny or Johnson on the wing isn't exactly an embarrassment of riches is it?
one isn't fast, one isn't a SL std rugby player.

King might have been woeful so far - 25 games.

But he must be better than he looks.
A SOO hat-trick can't be wrong can it?

Not read all of this thread but I feel Penny has been made a scapegoat for King's performance. I would now like to see Johnson in the centre with King on the wing.

I know some people have different views on what the effects of being dropped are, I think Kev will be frustrated not only because he's been dropped, but because King hasn't, too.

I'm not sure how this will effect Kev, he's a confident lad, so I hope this spurs him on to force his way back in. He doesn't seem the type who will dwell on this and feel sorry for himself.

It seemed to work well for him last year, his performances picked up after a spell out of the team.

i can see this being the team

1. riley
2. hicks
3. gleeson
4. bridge
5. king
6. briers
7. monaghan
8. morley
9. higham
10. carvell
11. l.anderson
12. westwood
13. v.anderson

14. johnson
15. wood
16. rauhihi
18. harrison

as chris bridge played left centre for the reserves i think they will try him out there saturday, would be a gud idea, weve tried him in evry other position but i think vinnie anderson should play centre and bridge should play loose forward

i reckon send penny to aussie for a year for some game time in one of the local comps around illawarra or sydney...the standard is close to national league and it won't be so much of a knock to his confidence being farmed out to eg leigh

he's got the raw ingredients to make a top player and i reckon for sure he would come back ready for superleague in a big way, last thing we want to do is waste his potential and i don't think its going anywhere being on fringe of first team/in 21s week in week out...send him to the team leikvoll's playing for he'll come back a star peacock went to team in same league look at him now

So where does Jon Clarke fit in?

loose forward, When Vinnie has his next sore throat, knee twinge, groin strain, bad back or Runny ar$e....

This one, la?

nicely done.

Looking at the way Kev Penny has been trying to improve i think dropping him from the squad altogether must feel like a kick in the nuts to him..

But as someone else said King has nowhere to hide on Saturday...

No, it's one or all of Penny, King, Anderson the L and Monaghan.

That whole left side is suspect and needs something to shake it up. Martin Gleeson would be my choice