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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"It’s sad, but the KFP reference actually adds to it. Imagine reading any serious CEO attempting to sign players literally from another sport at a fishing competition. Part of the problem, I’m afraid. The solution appears very much that Chambers and Burgess continue uninterrupted, time to move on from KFP.'"
Is a fishing competition really that bad of a thing or is this a snobbery issue? Would it be alright if someone attempted to sign someone at a cricket game for instance? |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Is a fishing competition really that bad of a thing or is this a snobbery issue? Would it be alright if someone attempted to sign someone at a cricket game for instance?'"
Don’t get me started on cricket, I’ve more chance of understanding the wrestling mathematician |
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| Quote ="Abe Froman"I appreciate this is a rumours thread, but Ellis Genge signing for Warrington is absolute nonsense.'"
Now I can rest easy in my bed |
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Now I can rest easy in my bed'"
I'm not surprised the rugby league press didn't bother to run the story over the past few weeks. Such a pathetic attempt by his Agent to get him a better deal at Bristol.
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His agent knew to mention Warrington and Karl Fitzpatrick to lend credibility as its exactly the type of PR signing we have a track record of making.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Bugger all ... cos they won't get sucked in to listening to crap.'"
Lets's hope Leon didn't listen to the Nathan Cleary crap too. |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Is a fishing competition really that bad of a thing or is this a snobbery issue? Would it be alright if someone attempted to sign someone at a cricket game for instance?'"
I see what you did there.
I remember when we got dicked at home 6-40 in the elimination playoff by Hull FC in 2005 that it was Ok as we had made a PR signing. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"I see what you did there.
I remember when we got dicked at home 6-40 in the elimination playoff by Hull FC in 2005 that it was Ok as we had made a PR signing.'"
So who was the big signing who you remember from 19 years back. |
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"So who was the big signing who you remember from 19 years back.'"
Whoever it was I'm sure he was furious about it at the time.
That being said, the signing wasn't my point, it was the location, as If that actually makes a difference. |
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"So who was the big signing who you remember from 19 years back.'"
How could anyone forget  |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Whoever it was I'm sure he was furious about it at the time.
That being said, the signing wasn't my point, it was the location, as If that actually makes a difference.'"
Genuinely I didn’t know “Strictly come Angling” was a thing. As for televised fishing, I thought it was trawlermen plucking crabs from stormy oceans. |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Whoever it was I'm sure he was furious about it at the time.
That being said, the signing wasn't my point, it was the location, as If that actually makes a difference.'"
Wasn't furious at all. It was quite the event. Very glad that the racism and drug issues did not happen on our watch though. Bullet dodged. Imagine calling a player a "black c you next tuesday" nowadays...
In retrospect I wonder if the club owners now wished they had put more focus and drive into developing a league winning squad and coach rather than a novelty PR signing.
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Flaming hell Wire71. Who did we sign as a PR exercise to make up for us losing to Hull?
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Quote ="Smiffy27"Flaming hell Wire71. Who did we sign as a PR exercise to make up for us losing to Hull?'"
I never said it was to make up for losing to Hull FC. I said "it was Ok as we had made a PR signing".
In the absence of Google, IIRC we signed a player called Andrew Johns (after a chance meeting at Lords Cricket ground between Moran and his agent) for the final 2 games of the regular season plus 1 playoff game that we got stuffed in. There was much excitement about signing a living RL legend and the PR that it generated. There was a loophole in the SL player registration rules that allowed this. The first of our stunt signings which predated Karl Fitzpatrick. Garndiose claims of pushing for a title, created a big hoo-har at the time and, as usual, Wire fizzled out in the playoffs after finishing 4th.
Johns went on to sully his reputation by making a racist remark about Greg Inglis, "black c***" ( https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/ ... reg-inglis) and admitting to taking recreational drugs through his playing career.( https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ugsinsport)
Like I said, fingers crossed we are on the right path now. |
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Quote ="Smiffy27"Flaming hell Wire71. Who did we sign as a PR exercise to make up for us losing to Hull?'"
I never said it was to make up for losing to Hull FC. I said "it was Ok as we had made a PR signing".
In the absence of Google, IIRC we signed a player called Andrew Johns (after a chance meeting at Lords Cricket ground between Moran and his agent) for the final 2 games of the regular season plus 1 playoff game that we got stuffed in. There was much excitement about signing a living RL legend and the PR that it generated. There was a loophole in the SL player registration rules that allowed this. The first of our stunt signings which predated Karl Fitzpatrick. Garndiose claims of pushing for a title, created a big hoo-har at the time and, as usual, Wire fizzled out in the playoffs after finishing 4th.
Johns went on to sully his reputation by making a racist remark about Greg Inglis, "black c***" ( https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2010/ ... reg-inglis) and admitting to taking recreational drugs through his playing career.( https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/ ... ugsinsport)
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Ah ... I understand now. I quite enjoyed the Johns bit & didn't link us losing vs Hull to his signing.
The fact that we got Big Sam as coach shows we still like to aim high. Long may it continue but still work hard on development of our young stars too.
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The Hull game was Johns's last game for us. Hull fans were singing "He's going home ".
It is obvious with some of our less illustrious recruits that they have come for a holiday & a last pay day.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Ah ... I understand now. I quite enjoyed the Johns bit & didn't link us losing vs Hull to his signing.
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No I am not suggesting for one minute we lost against Hull due to Johns. We lost against Hull FC because Paul Cullen was a very limited coach who could not get any consistency into his star studded side.
Johns was the "distraction" signing. Club focussed on big PR ego signings whilst taking the eye off the main price (if it was ever on it) |
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| Quote ="Wires71"No I am not suggesting for one minute we lost against Hull due to Johns. We lost against Hull FC because Paul Cullen was a very limited coach who could not get any consistency into his star studded side.
Johns was the "distraction" signing. Club focussed on big PR ego signings whilst taking the eye off the main price (if it was ever on it)'"
Being a little unfair I think, several clubs made high profile signings that year I think? Bradford signed Morley, seem to recall Hull FC signing someone? Johns was a good signing who was due to sign a full time deal with us later on following his short spell, but injury put pay to that. |
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Being a little unfair I think, several clubs made high profile signings that year I think? Bradford signed Morley, seem to recall Hull FC signing someone? Johns was a good signing who was due to sign a full time deal with us later on following his short spell, but injury put pay to that.'"
Yeah maybe I am. But he was always going back to Newcastle for 2 years after his 3 game stint with us.
As it turns out I got all knee jerk animated by that Genge crap and it brought back some bad memories (Inglis, Burrell etc). |
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Is a fishing competition really that bad of a thing or is this a snobbery issue? Would it be alright if someone attempted to sign someone at a cricket game for instance?'"
We have history here, as Kevin Penny played cricket locally at Appleton, prior to wearing the P&B. |
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Genuinely I didn’t know “Strictly come Angling” was a thing. As for televised fishing, I thought it was trawlermen plucking crabs from stormy oceans.'"
I'm certain that if Paul Whitehouse, Robson Green and Claudia Winkleman are sat in the North Stand on Saturday, then the Sky cameras will no doubt locate them very, very quickly. |
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yeah maybe I am. But he was always going back to Newcastle for 2 years after his 3 game stint with us.
As it turns out I got all knee jerk animated by that Genge crap and it brought back some bad memories (Inglis, Burrell etc).'"
A neck injury curtailed his career, so we'll never know whether, or not, he would have honoured the deal it was rumoured he had signed with us. I'm with you on Genge, it would just be a distraction signing, whereas the Johns one definitely had good media impact at the time. |
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"I'm certain that if Paul Whitehouse, Robson Green and Claudia Winkleman are sat in the North Stand on Saturday, then the Sky cameras will no doubt locate them very, very quickly.'"
I didn't realise they were famous anglers. My 2 brothers have both dabbled at times but just seems like a lot of faff followed by a lot of waiting.
I have noticed that canal anglers have rods that reach all the way to the other side of the canal. Ive always wondered why they didn’t just sit on that side and droop their line in from there.? |
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I didn't realise they were famous anglers. My 2 brothers have both dabbled at times but just seems like a lot of faff followed by a lot of waiting.
I have noticed that canal anglers have rods that reach all the way to the other side of the canal. Ive always wondered why they didn’t just sit on that side and droop their line in from there.?'"
Because the fish would see you and move to the other side…A friend told me. |
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| Quote ="Abe Froman"The WOW signing being speculated about was Nathan Cleary. Won't be happening to my knowledge, but fair play to SM for the attempt.'"
SM? Surely you mean Gary Chambers?
Anyway, are we still on the look out for an established half back? I'd be a little concerned going into 2025 with Leon Hayes and Oli Leyland. |
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