Free speech mate?

Free speech ? Let’s go back to the good times when we had to sell our best young players like Harris and Sculthorpe. Thewlis and Wrench had better keep their heads down.

The thread is not advocating that?

The thread rightly questions the effectiveness of the leadership not the crucial generosity of the owners which is beyond doubt. I dont think there is one fan that is not thankful for the owners wealth. Without it we would be dead in the water.

We are debating whether changes to the CEO or appointing a director of RL has merit. We are using Cullens logic that if you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got.

Is that a taboo subject?

Of course it is not a taboo subject but the title of the thread is ‘Sack the board’ not sack the CEO.

I don't think anyone has suggested getting rid of Moran and Middleton (as if a handful of fans on an Internet forum would somehow have the clout to make anything happen). I think I've said twice on the thread I don't want them to go anywhere.

As the person who started the thread (partly as a counter to the multiple "King and Currie are stealing a wage" posts on multiple threads) I wondered if M and M questioned themselves and if they ever wondered if they were part of the supposed cultural problems. I've no idea, I'm not an insider, but I am mighty frustrated that none of the myriad ways we have tried to win the big one have ended up in failure.

Well, we've had several CEOs over the years. Sacking Fitzpatrick would, to my mind, have zero impact on our chances of winning the Grand Final.

We've had 3 over 20 years

The board are there to hold the executive to account. The executive, in certain elements, had been making progress. New training facilities, PDRL teams (Adam Hills and all of his coverage) ladies team, social media reach etc. was all going well. But there is a detachment from all of those successes when the rugby side doesn’t get the job done. You can’t go sending funny twitter videos and get hammered at the weekend.

I’ve already stated that I think a Director of Rugby would be a beneficial appointment, someone who can work closely with the coaches (first, reserves, academy, pathways, ladies, PDRL) and report into the executive. It’s a big beast, a head coach can’t do it alone and a CEO can’t have real oversight while still running the ‘business’.

3/10

Several is more than 2.

I disagree entirely with that last sentence. I do agree with the suggestion of changing the thread title though.

Didn’t we have someone between Andy Gatcliffe and Roger Draper?

EDIT: No, we didn’t. I just googled Draper.

and he left from there round 12 months, or not much longer.

Now, i've pointed this out before, people criticizing karl's (lack of) background, but we had a top level in multiple sports CEO there, plenty of experience who came in, left us in a fair bit of debt, didn't do much retaining our principle sponsor in fly emirates (though granted they were cutting down on sponsors) and almost ostracised every other sponsor partner because he didn't like all the different advert boards around the stadium.

and he oversaw the signing of ryan bailey...

Draper isn’t doing to bad now. He’ll be glad he doesn’t work at this circus anymore.