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Many times we ask why the international game is under valued. I think supporters should look at themselves before blaming anything else. It doesn't matter who did or didn't do well it should be that we won or lost as a team not a blame culture because a player from a team we don't like! For years people have been moaning about how poor Sinfield is for England now they have found another name to bemoan. Give it a rest and support your national team, club loyalties in the cupboard please until the RLWC is over icon_frustrated.gif

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Quote: Wire2000 "If Tomkins had played for any other team but Wigan he would not have had all the publicity and the likes of Eddie and Stevo raving about him every week, I really do think he is mediocre and will get found out next year down under, may well come back and join his brother in union.'"


I think you will find they would.

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Tomkins is world class.
If we had two half backs in his class we might have a chance but, as it is, I do not think so.
I would have loved to see him in P&B because, after all, The Wire were his boyhood team. In spite of the media saying he is a Wiganer

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Quote: wireone "Tomkins is world class.
If we had two half backs in his class we might have a chance but, as it is, I do not think so.
I would have loved to see him in P&B because, after all, The Wire were his boyhood team. In spite of the media saying he is a Wiganer'"

By "we" I mean England not the Wire.

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Quote: wireone "Tomkins is world class.
If we had two half backs in his class we might have a chance but, as it is, I do not think so.
I would have loved to see him in P&B because, after all, The Wire were his boyhood team. In spite of the media saying he is a Wiganer'"


World class? Slater is world class, Tomkins is nowhere near!

He's cack under the high ball, not as solid/reliable in defence as Wellens and Radlinski used to be, doesn't make as many clean breaks as people think he does or should, mouths off and whinges at the ref all game.

The only thing he has that you would say he is good at is he is a good runner in broken play - but only done that in SL against some mediocre defences. In the international game, he's just not doing it cos he's not good enough.

Don't get me wrong, he's better than anything else England have, but if he's the best then it really does prove how far away we are in the talent pool to Aus and NZ.

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "World class? Slater is world class, Tomkins is nowhere near!

He's cack under the high ball, not as solid/reliable in defence as Wellens and Radlinski used to be, doesn't make as many clean breaks as people think he does or should, mouths off and whinges at the ref all game.

The only thing he has that you would say he is good at is he is a good runner in broken play - but only done that in SL against some mediocre defences. In the international game, he's just not doing it cos he's not good enough.

Don't get me wrong, he's better than anything else England have, but if he's the best then it really does prove how far away we are in the talent pool to Aus and NZ.'"



Exactly my point, well said, now lets see how he performs next year, if he does well in the NRL I will eat my words and congratulate him, but in the meantime, let's all get a life!

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "World class? Slater is world class, Tomkins is nowhere near!

He's cack under the high ball, not as solid/reliable in defence as Wellens and Radlinski used to be, doesn't make as many clean breaks as people think he does or should, mouths off and whinges at the ref all game.

The only thing he has that you would say he is good at is he is a good runner in broken play - but only done that in SL against some mediocre defences. In the international game, he's just not doing it cos he's not good enough.

Don't get me wrong, he's better than anything else England have, but if he's the best then it really does prove how far away we are in the talent pool to Aus and NZ.'"


How very dare you, Eddie & Stevo would vomit upon reading this icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "World class? Slater is world class, Tomkins is nowhere near!

He's cack under the high ball, not as solid/reliable in defence as Wellens and Radlinski used to be, doesn't make as many clean breaks as people think he does or should, mouths off and whinges at the ref all game.

The only thing he has that you would say he is good at is he is a good runner in broken play - but only done that in SL against some mediocre defences. In the international game, he's just not doing it cos he's not good enough.

Don't get me wrong, he's better than anything else England have, but if he's the best then it really does prove how far away we are in the talent pool to Aus and NZ.'"



2nd in the English team for clean breaks, 2nd for metres made, most try assists, 1 missed tackle, second for tackle busts.

Looks o.k to me.

He'll do well in the NRL.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "2nd in the English team for clean breaks, 2nd for metres made, most try assists, 1 missed tackle, second for tackle busts.

Looks o.k to me.

He'll do well in the NRL.'"


3rd for clean breaks - 13th overall in the whole comp.

9th overall for metres made

2nd overall for try assists

10th overall for tackle busts ( even a welshman is above him! )

6th overall in errors made ( and how many players in the entire tournament?? )

So, for the most expensive player in the world, not great stats I don't think. Not exactly set the WC on fire has he!!

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "World class? Slater is world class, Tomkins is nowhere near!

He's cack under the high ball, not as solid/reliable in defence as Wellens and Radlinski used to be, doesn't make as many clean breaks as people think he does or should, mouths off and whinges at the ref all game.
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Other than the reference to Wellens and Radlinski ar eyou talking about briers here?

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Quote: Enicomb "Other than the reference to Wellens and Radlinski ar eyou talking about briers here?'"


Why are you bringing Briers into it? We're talking about Tomkins.

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So Warrington fans think Tomkins is a poor player.
Says it all really!

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good player yes world class no..slater thurston now they are world class...

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