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| Thats what I'm talking about Jack!
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| Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "And if I had the choice, I'd choose that nobody was allowed any
You are not a lone voice crying in the wilderness, I too would stop the sale of alcohol in the ground. I am fed up with getting drink spilled on me, having people push past every few minutes as they get more ale, getting gobby and thinking that they are suddenly comedians, etc, etc.
I go to rugby to watch the rugby. If you want a drink, go to a pub.
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| To be honest i don't drink during the game i have a couple of pints in the Ridney before then i go into the ground to watch a game of rugby and to be honest i do wonder why people need a drink at the match even to the point of missing some of the game whilst queing. However, that is my personal oppinion and a lot of people do enjoy a drink whilst watching the game. I say why the hell not its always been part of rugby league and something i think we should be proud of.
As far as getting ale spilt on you at matches this also happened at Wilderspool so not really worried on the odd occasion.
I think the lead has to come from the Rugby League to the point of saying that IF the stewards think that anyone entering the stadium that is the worst for drink then they would NOT be allowed admission and this should be clearly stated on all tickets and turnstiles, i have been to games this season and some of our supported couldnt even walk nevermind watch a game of rugby, i saw two at Bradford in the challenge cup. If their is any trouble at games that is found to be drink related then the clubs should be held to task and delt with accordingly
In conclusion i think to ban drinking at games would be a knee jerk reaction, as we do not know for sure that all trouble is drink related and the majority who have a drink whilst enjoing a game of Rugby and cause no detrement to the enjoyment of other fans like myself.
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| Quote: POSTL "To be honest i don't drink during the game i have a couple of pints in the [sizeRidney[/size'"
sorry... couldn't resist
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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!: |
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| So it appears we now have maybe three options:-
1) Ban beer sales ----- least favoured
2) Ban beer from terraces but Ok in the concourse area
3) No change in the sales/consumption policy but with must heavier enforcement.
I'd vote 3
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| Quote: mikej "So it appears we now have maybe three options
Option 3, mikej, spot on.
Make these totally useless stewards earn their money.
Anyone remember the Bradford game at home (2nd game of the season after we'd beaten Wigan away) in 2007, when Brent Grose was correctly adjudged NOT to have been illegaly impeded by a Bradford player. Cue the neanderthals to start hurling beer bottles at the touch judge involved (the one who looks like a Chuckle Brother). One "helmet" threw a bottle at the TJ, directly infront of a steward- who saw it all- and guess what....the steward did nothing.
WHEN ARE THESE USELESS ARTICLES GOING TO DO WHAT THEY GET PAID FOR.
In all my years of Wire watching, I can honestly say I've had less than a handful of pints in all that time at a match....mainly because I know it's going to taste like filth, so I don't bother. Don't punish the one's who enjoy a few, and don't cause trouble. Just get the stewards to evict those who cause bother/can't handle their swally.
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14558_1285323450.jpg *****Warrington Wolves, 2009, 2010 & 2012 Challenge Cup Winners, 2011 League Leaders*****
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| I remember that vikidly. Wasn't that when Vainikolo 'impeded' Grose? As Bradofrd were going over the line, Briers pointed at the bottle and crowd and suggested that there was "no need" for the bottle throwing. But as you say Stewards did nothing about it.
I'd go for option 2 personally. Ban alcohol from the terraces, not the stadium.
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| I believe that responsible adults should be allowed to drink at matches. I have 2 pints every home game (none on away games cause i drive.) and enjoy watching the team i love whilst enjoying a pint. The problem is the irresponsible adults that if you banned drink sales in the ground, would either arrive tanked up or sneak vodka etc in. I think the only true way to go would be for police and stewards to remove anybody deemed drunk. This is hard to police but what other choices are there apart from a total ban throughout the town centre on match days?
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| As stated before my option would also be 3.
But what about if beer sales were stopped at kick off time and restarted at half time. And also a min of 2 pints per person allowed to be ordered.
This would stop a lot of the up and downing of fans.
But what I would like to see is this used a lot more. I've only seen it used once and that was in Cardiff. Although the guy tried a different turnstyle and got in.
13 Under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985, the following are offences for which a person can be arrested by a police officer and conviction could result in a Banning Order being made:
13.1 Attempting to enter the Ground or being inside the Ground whilst drunk;
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| Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "Drinking on the street is against the law. Underage drinking is against the law. Serving alcohol to people who are intoxicated is against the law. '"
Well done for stating the obvious. However I want to drink in the ground not on the street, I am far from underage and I don't want to be served when intoxicated.
The beer being spilt argument always makes me laugh, I have been at games when people have jumped up and I have had a shower in fanta so should all drinks be banned?
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| Surely having people only allowed to drink in the coucourse areas would just lead to them becoming dangerously full and harder for people to navigate around safely at half time?
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| Quote: gateaux "Surely having people only allowed to drink in the coucourse areas would just lead to them becoming dangerously full and harder for people to navigate around safely at half time?'"
If memory serves me correctly (a few years since been to either ground so forgive me if wrong) there isn't that problem at Wigan or Widnes where you are/were not allowed to take drink from the concourses to the stands.
We live in a socially changing world - 10 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to smoke at a sporting stadium, now it is banned; 30 years ago it was usual to have seats, bottles or bricks flying between sets of supporters before during and after a game, RL or otherwise, now that element of hooliganism has largely been eradicated from society; 50 years ago there was no problem sinking 5 or 6 pints of finest ale & then driving home with your unseatbelted family in the back, now of course that is totally wrong. To argue that something is ok and should not change "because I have always done this" is wrong & flawed.
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| Quote: magic piano "If memory serves me correctly (a few years since been to either ground so forgive me if wrong) there isn't that problem at Wigan or Widnes where you are/were not allowed to take drink from the concourses to the stands.
We live in a socially changing world - 10 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to smoke at a sporting stadium, now it is banned; 30 years ago it was usual to have seats, bottles or bricks flying between sets of supporters before during and after a game, RL or otherwise, now that element of hooliganism has largely been eradicated from society; 50 years ago there was no problem sinking 5 or 6 pints of finest ale & then driving home with your unseatbelted family in the back, now of course that is totally wrong. To argue that something is ok and should not change "because I have always done this" is wrong & flawed.'"
I have always taken drinks into my seat at Wigan without a problem.
I am not arguing that everything is ok and should not change. I am arguing the change should be targeting the individuals who are causing problems not using a blanket 'solution' that I don't believe would make any difference anyway.
Get the police/stewards enforcing the drinking laws correctly, ejecting anyone from the ground who is causing trouble (drink or no drink) rather than trying to ban alcohol outright as unless you had proper stewarding stopping people coming into the ground when drunk then it wouldn't make any difference anyway.
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| Well as I said a few since at Wigan! I agree that enforcing the drink laws correctly would be a start, but sadly they are not being enforced at the HJ, and in that case perhaps the licencing committee at the Council would like to investigate? Revocation of licence for the first 2 games of 2011 & then close scrutiny of measures in place maymake the club sit up and take notice...
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| Quote: magic piano "If memory serves me correctly (a few years since been to either ground so forgive me if wrong) there isn't that problem at Wigan or Widnes where you are/were not allowed to take drink from the concourses to the stands.
We live in a socially changing world - 10 years ago it was perfectly acceptable to smoke at a sporting stadium, now it is banned; 30 years ago it was usual to have seats, bottles or bricks flying between sets of supporters before during and after a game, RL or otherwise, now that element of hooliganism has largely been eradicated from society; 50 years ago there was no problem sinking 5 or 6 pints of finest ale & then driving home with your unseatbelted family in the back, now of course that is totally wrong. To argue that something is ok and should not change "because I have always done this" is wrong & flawed.'"
OOI Do you extend your attitude to embracing change in your religious beliefs?
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