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| How would you know he knows nothing about the game. He has watched the sport for over 20 years, sits in the board room and has had one on ones with coaches and some of the best players in the business who I suspect have been very insightful.
I am afraid you are being very shortsighted if any of us where in a similar position I am sure we would all make what in others oppinions are mistakes.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm not questioning his business knowledge, im telling people he now's nothing about the game.
He runs the club like a fan would, throwing money at it to paper over the cracks, becoming friends with to many people and letting them run riot at the club.'"
Is having a great knowledge of RL a pre-requisite for being a majority share holder?
What does McManus know about RL? What does Caddick know about RL?
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| Quote ="Geordie"How would you know he knows nothing about the game. He has watched the sport for over 20 years, sits in the board room and has had one on ones with coaches and some of the best players in the business who I suspect have been very insightful.
I am afraid you are being very shortsighted if any of us where in a similar position I am sure we would all make what in others oppinions are mistakes.'"
I know he has a very limited knowledge of the game, im not telling you how i know because i can do without the name calling and abuse that i would receive for doing so.
At the end of the day he is the money man and that's all, for to me i want more than that, i would even do without the money.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I know he has a very limited knowledge of the game, im not telling you how i know because i can do without the name calling and abuse that i would receive for doing so.
At the end of the day he is the money man and that's all and to me i want more than that.'"
Let me get this right. Your source knows the inside of Moran's head? Plus, you want a wealthy benefactor who has the RL knowledge of Wayne Bennett?
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| This may be a naive question, but other than stumping up the transfer fee for Gleeson, where has SM been ploughing his money into the club?
The Andrew Johns deal paid for itself, and as far as I am aware any new signings have come off contract so transfer fees haven't been necessary. We are running under the salary cap, so the club is paying wages out of the money the club is making.
This thread reads as if SM is making every decision at the club, and paying all costs personally himself!
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| Quote ="Geordie"How would you know he knows nothing about the game. He has watched the sport for over 20 years, sits in the board room and has had one on ones with coaches and some of the best players in the business who I suspect have been very insightful.
I am afraid you are being very shortsighted if any of us where in a similar position I am sure we would all make what in others oppinions are mistakes.'"
agree...............without moran the club would not have the infrastructure it has today, I would prefer him involved with the club.
I am sure they are thinking long and hard about the situation knee jirk decisions have been the problem with this board, I hope they see fit to plan a long term and sustainable outcome to replace lowes and move on
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Let me get this right. Your source knows the inside of Moran's head? Plus, you want a wealthy benefactor who has the RL knowledge of Wayne Bennett?'"
I haven't got a source and i said i would even do without the money.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"This may be a naive question, but other than stumping up the transfer fee for Gleeson, where has SM been ploughing his money into the club?
The Andrew Johns deal paid for itself, and as far as I am aware any new signings have come off contract so transfer fees haven't been necessary. We are running under the salary cap, so the club is paying wages out of the money the club is making.
This thread reads as if SM is making every decision at the club, and paying all costs personally himself!'"
Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I haven't got a source and i said i would even do without the money.'"
So you are saying, you personally know that Moran has no knowledge of RL?
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| blackburn had a fan who also happened to be a millionaire injecting cash, now i don't know how he worked on the board but i do know that consistency on the field and eventually the premiership title didn't come until kenny dalglish was made manager
so, for me, moran isn't the problem, he is the only possible solution...that is, him getting tony smith (or equivalently good person with proven record) to come on board as manager and then all parties (fans/board) having patience and giving him time to build a team...i don't think the board being patient will be a problem given there track record haha!
i thought giving jimmy some time was the right way to go but if he has been threatening opposing fans then he should be sacked and if there is so much disharmony in the camp as is suggested on here then obviously he is not right
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| I know emotions are running a little high at the moment and people are getting extremely upset about the on-field performances, but to come on here and have a pop at moran simply beggars belief.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"So you are saying, you personally know that Moran has no knowledge of RL?'"
I'm saying i have come to the opinion that Simon Moran has a limited knowledge of Rugby League due to conversations that i have been involved in within his presence on a number of occasions.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"but to come on here and have a pop at moran simply beggars belief.'"
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"
Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
So his pennies have brought a world class centre to the club, two quality (if injury prone) props and most fans favourite player to the club. I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.
Moran, the Board, Lowes (though I agree with that one), half the back room staff, Doug Hoyle, Briers, King, Monaghan, Rauhihi, Clarke, Bridge, Johnson (agree again), Reardon (and again), Penny, all the shop and ticket office staff, the stewards, and Mr "On 3, 3 - 2 - 1" (definately get rid of him) all have to go!
Won't be much left
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans (does anyone remember the comments in the report) and the club has alwasy been bigger than any number of individuals.
However I do firmly believe that Simon Moran is essential to the future of the club but I do wish he would get some better people and advice around him. Clearly things are sliding away at an alarming rate of knots.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.'"
This is what has been happening and so far it's got us nowhere, as i say paper over the cracks, adding to the problem rather than sorting the problem out.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans.'"
I wouldn't go that far, Doug Hoyle got us the ground nobody else.
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| I would like to see a Director of Rugby on the board to represent the sporting side of the club at board level.
From what I understand, in addition to Moran, the board consists of Lance James (local engineerings company), Diana Terris (WBC Chief Exec), Bill Holroyd (local businessman) and Norman Summers (Greenhalls accountant.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I wouldn't go that far. The club would never have got planning permission for the new stadium if it wasn't for the fans (does anyone remember the comments in the report) and the club has alwasy been bigger than any number of individuals.
However I do firmly believe that Simon Moran is essential to the future of the club but I do wish he would get some better people and advice around him. Clearly things are sliding away at an alarming rate of knots.'"
It goes back to before the stadium. Don't forget, and granted I am using his words; the bought the majority shareholding to ensure the club's priorty would be making the team as strong as possible. Not take whatever profits there may be.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I'm saying i have come to the opinion that Simon Moran has a limited knowledge of Rugby League due to conversations that i have been involved in within his presence on a number of occasions.'"
Surely the fact that Simon Moran associates with the likes of Latchford Wolvesfan is damning enough evidence.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"I wouldn't go that far, Doug Hoyle got us the ground nobody else.'"
Incorrect and that is an insulting comment to the work that many, many people did on this proposal. Did you ever read the report that got published after the enquiry? It stated that the ground and store did break planning guidelines but they passed it because of the depth of support of the fans and the damage it would do to the community if the premier sporting club in the town ceased to exist.
The move to the stadium will always be the pivotal moment in the history of this club. Unfortunately a lot of the goodwill generated during this time has now been lost.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Wood and Westwood, Gleeson & Carvell.
The fundamental that seems to have passed everybody by, is without Moran, there would be no need for this forum.'"
Anderson.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"It goes back to before the stadium. Don't forget, and granted I am using his words; the bought the majority shareholding to ensure the club's priorty would be making the team as strong as possible. Not take whatever profits there may be.'"
I am also aware of that and that was a crucial time in keeping the club going in that period before the stadium proposal was past. But I still state that it was the building of the new stadium that was the pivotal moment in the future of this club and that happened because of the will of many people.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Incorrect and that is an insulting comment to the work that many, many people did on this proposal. Did you ever read the report that got published after the enquiry? It stated that the ground and store did break planning guidelines but they passed it because of the depth of support of the fans and the damage it would do to the community if the premier sporting club in the town ceased to exist. '"
You believe that
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| Quote ="Thelonius"So his pennies have brought a world class centre to the club, two quality (if injury prone) props and most fans favourite player to the club. I'm sure that if whoever the coach was wanted any player in the world, and that player was available, he would fund that deal too if possible.
Moran, the Board, Lowes (though I agree with that one), half the back room staff, Doug Hoyle, Briers, King, Monaghan, Rauhihi, Clarke, Bridge, Johnson (agree again), Reardon (and again), Penny, all the shop and ticket office staff, the stewards, and Mr "On 3, 3 - 2 - 1" (definately get rid of him) all have to go!
Won't be much left
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If you are referring to Martin Gleeson I think a much more accurate description would be former world class centre.
Think his lifestyle choices ruined him tbh.
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