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| Quote ="The Speculator"Agreed. Penny and Riley both deserve to be in ahead of King at the moment.'"
Agreed again. Would also send out the right signal to the other 'senior' players that they need to earn their starting place.
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| Quote ="JJJ"Would you play him on Sunday after bagging 4 tries. High on confidence bit of speed and enthusiasm.
I would give Riley a rest in reserves and move Hicks to full back. Riley had a shocker Friday (apart from his break for try) and his confidence will be low, and after all Lowes dropped Penny after 1 game v saints'"
I totally agree J. IF a player can't break into the first team after that performance then it send the signal out that the reserves & the youth development isn't worth a toss.
However, putting him into the Leeds game facing the backlash that they're going to inflict on us is the wrong game. I'd tell Penny that his efforts are worth a call up but after next week.
This week I'd swap Hicks & Riley over, Put Clarke in at 9 to shore up the system & bring Higham on for the last 15 each half for Vinnie & drop Clarke to 13.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Yes that's why i said arguably.
Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing
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He was playing better and better on the wing last year, and whoever plays outside Gleeson generally scores tries.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Yes that's why i said arguably.
Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing
'" Yeah i do,
any winger playin outside martin gleeson will score tries,
thats been proven for seasons now.
hicks makes very few if any mistakes,thats what makes him a much better and more reliable player than riley,
lets not forget riley is still on a massive learning curve,
as pointed out by phil clarke last week when he said,
you cant call yourself a super league regular till you have played at least 50 games plus..
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Majority on the wings.'"
He was a fullback for Woolston Rovers.
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| If it was down to me I would bring Penny back but play him outside of anyone other than King. I would also stick with Riley at fullback for the time being as I believe that out of everyone currently at the club, he is most likely to be the first choice fullback in years to come. Monas needs to be moved to hooker sooner rather than later, and Bridge needs to partner Briers in the halves to give us a more dynamic partnership.
In my mind the best compromise to acheive all this would be Riley at fullback and play King outside Gleeson. If an Australian international (even an average one) can't switch wings then he may as well tear up his own contract and go back on the bins at home). If King can't find his confidence playing outside Gleeson then he will never find it. If Gleeson can make a donkey like Henry or a journeyman player like Hicks look good, then if it clicks what can he do with King?
At left centre I would play Hicks. This isn't an ideal solution, but he does have experience as an NRL centre and, as already said, there have to be some compromises somewhere. Outside Hicks I would play Penny.
This would free up Bridge to go into the halves, then Monas to Hooker, then Higham to impact hooker, where I believe he will be more effective than in his current 80 minute slot.
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| Quote ="Briers Is God"Drop King. Simple answer'"
Theres a game i would go to watc, King in the reserves!!!
Jimmy wouldn't play him if he dropped him though.
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| Aaw Play penny pleeeeaaaasssseeeeeeeeee !! aw go on.....any chance of playing Penny AND Riley now that would be a bonus and well worth the ticket price, and petrol cost for the whole family !! A good day out and a good laugh to go with it !!!
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"Aaw Play penny pleeeeaaaasssseeeeeeeeee !! aw go on.....any chance of playing Penny AND Riley now that would be a bonus and well worth the ticket price, and petrol cost for the whole family !! A good day out and a good laugh to go with it !!!'"
Has Trigger signed in with your username?
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| bwah bwah bwah.....
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| Quote ="Rhino Roy"bwah bwah bwah.....'"
=redWe do not welcome trolls on this forum..either stop or suffer the consequences.
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Quote ="SEB"He was a fullback for Woolston Rovers.'"
Thought that too but who am i to argue with the man himself.
Quote Riley Said:
“It’ll be good if I get another chance playing full back too because I love playing there and I will work my hardest to keep my spot.
“When I was younger I was a winger but when I [ijoined the academy[/i, I became a full back and I enjoyed the freedom I got playing there.* '"
i knew you'd pick me up on that.
* www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/wol ... ss_Wolves/
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Quote ="SEB"He was a fullback for Woolston Rovers.'"
Thought that too but who am i to argue with the man himself.
Quote Riley Said:
“It’ll be good if I get another chance playing full back too because I love playing there and I will work my hardest to keep my spot.
“When I was younger I was a winger but when I [ijoined the academy[/i, I became a full back and I enjoyed the freedom I got playing there.* '"
i knew you'd pick me up on that.
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| I'd personally give Riley a week off.
Hicks at full back and Penny outside Gleeson.
Obviously the best combination would be Gleeson/King but im not sure the other side would look too stable unless you went Bridge/Hicks
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| Quote ="Thelonius"If it was down to me I would bring Penny back but play him outside of anyone other than King. I would also stick with Riley at fullback for the time being as I believe that out of everyone currently at the club, he is most likely to be the first choice fullback in years to come. Monas needs to be moved to hooker sooner rather than later, and Bridge needs to partner Briers in the halves to give us a more dynamic partnership.
In my mind the best compromise to acheive all this would be Riley at fullback and play King outside Gleeson. If an Australian international (even an average one) can't switch wings then he may as well tear up his own contract and go back on the bins at home). If King can't find his confidence playing outside Gleeson then he will never find it. If Gleeson can make a donkey like Henry or a journeyman player like Hicks look good, then if it clicks what can he do with King?
At left centre I would play Hicks. This isn't an ideal solution, but he does have experience as an NRL centre and, as already said, there have to be some compromises somewhere. Outside Hicks I would play Penny.
This would free up Bridge to go into the halves, then Monas to Hooker, then Higham to impact hooker, where I believe he will be more effective than in his current 80 minute slot.'"
You have got to be joking.
I wish he was still here.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I`m not sure who your referring too here as i certainly havn`t said that Chris Riley has been our best player in any game previously, what i said was he has been solid previously without being spectacular.'"
I was referring to Latchford Wolvesfan's comments earlier.
I thought Riley was starting to look ok last season on the wing, but he has gone backwards along way at full back. If he is to play, it should be on the wing.
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| Quote ="keithcun"
You have got to be joking.
I wish he was still here.'"
OK, perhaps Donkey was a bit severe, cart horse may have been more appropriate (I was a Henry fan btw)
My point being that Henry was hardly the worlds most agile, dynamic or speedy winger. In the words of Brian Moore (talking about Ronald Koeman) "Built like a battleship, and turns like one too". Yet playing outside Gleeson, and with Briers putting the ball in the air, Henry was able to score far more than he perhaps should have. If Henry was able to do so well outside of Gleeson and bearing in mind that many posters grannies (who have been dead 17 years) could score 20 a season outside Gleeson, how well would King do? Surely worth a try?
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| Quote ="Thelonius"OK, perhaps Donkey was a bit severe, cart horse may have been more appropriate
(I was a Henry fan btw)
My point being that Henry was hardly the worlds most agile, dynamic or speedy winger. In the words of Brian Moore (talking about Ronald Koeman) "Built like a battleship, and turns like one too". Yet playing outside Gleeson, and with Briers putting the ball in the air, Henry was able to score far more than he perhaps should have. If Henry was able to do so well outside of Gleeson and bearing in mind that many posters grannies (who have been dead 17 years) could score 20 a season outside Gleeson, how well would King do? Surely worth a try?'"
Should we have to do that though on what he's alledgedly paid?
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Yeh, I was a bit puzzled by that. He was definitely full back for the Rovers u16s side. Maybe he was a winger when younger than that and he's just forgotten when he switched. Trust me, I saw him score plenty of spectacular tries from fullback for that team.
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Yeh, I was a bit puzzled by that. He was definitely full back for the Rovers u16s side. Maybe he was a winger when younger than that and he's just forgotten when he switched. Trust me, I saw him score plenty of spectacular tries from fullback for that team.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Yes that's why i said arguably.
Although every player had a shocker against the French.
Do you think Riley would score the same amount of tries that Hicks does on the wing
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Yep! Looks at the stats...!!
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| Quote ="Wolfette"=redWe do not welcome trolls on this forum..either stop or suffer the consequences.'"
"I am a pathetic troll too"
My post removed and replaced with this by forum moderator Wolfette - I ask you, who is the pathetic one in all of this.
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| Quote ="Lord of Lincolnshire"Yep! Looks at the stats...!!
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Which stats
You mean the stats that show Hicks has a better try 2 game ratio than Riley.
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| Quote ="Wolfette"=redWe do not welcome trolls on this forum..either stop or suffer the consequences.'"
What about all the Wire fans who think you would be play off material on the NRL thread, they must be trolls surely.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"What about all the Wire fans who think you would be play off material on the NRL thread, they must be trolls surely.'"
Try reading it, you can read, can't you?
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| Quote ="SEB"Yeh, I was a bit puzzled by that. He was definitely full back for the Rovers u16s side. Maybe he was a winger when younger than that and he's just forgotten when he switched. Trust me, I saw him score plenty of spectacular tries from fullback for that team.'"
Was that his last season there?
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| Quote ="Wire On The Telly"Was that his last season there?'"
Yes.
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