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We made 17 errors v Wigan.
I really couldn't give a monkeys about "funny" stunts by the club as it does not make a jot of difference to the game. I'm OK with the effort & the will to win by the team.
But for some reason we handle pressure very badly. This includes players & fans.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "We made 17 errors v Wigan.
I really couldn't give a monkeys about "funny" stunts by the club as it has no as it does not make a jot of difference to the game. I'm OK with the effort & the will to win by the team.
But for some reason we handle pressure very badly. This includes players & fans.'"

This last line, very much so.

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Interesting views. Particularly the one about you needing a Moz and a Briers.

I thought you had that in Vaughan and Williams.

Vaughan started the year house on fire but just seemed to go through then motions on Sunday. Got through plenty of work but nothing too impactful. Easily handled.

Williams is getting paid one of the biggest salary in super league and just needed to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Wrong option so many times, kicks into touch, kicking for props early in the count, poor general kicking and wrong options with lead runners.

Ma’tautia rightly getting stick but for me a marquee half back should be taking responsibility over a centre who’s just filling in.

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Quote: NSW "Interesting views. Particularly the one about you needing a Moz and a Briers.

I thought you had that in Vaughan and Williams.

Vaughan started the year house on fire but just seemed to go through then motions on Sunday. Got through plenty of work but nothing too impactful. Easily handled.

Williams is getting paid one of the biggest salary in super league and just needed to take the game by the scruff of the neck. Wrong option so many times, kicks into touch, kicking for props early in the count, poor general kicking and wrong options with lead runners.

Ma’tautia rightly getting stick but for me a marquee half back should be taking responsibility over a centre who’s just filling in.'"


Have to agree on Williams. He’s been great this year, no doubt, but he has struggled without Drinkwater. The poor kick on our first attacking set really said it all. We didn’t touch the ball (discounting Philbin’s volleyball effort) in the Wigan 20 until the chance where Thewlis gets put into touch, probably 30 mins in.

Briers was erratic, but he would have either put it in the in-goal or at least landed it on the try line to make a contest of it. Williams kicked it backwards with Dudson picking up the scraps.

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Say want you want about Price, but he gave me one of the best days out of my life, and certainly the best since 2009.

Up to now, every game I’ve seen under Powell have given me no buzz. I wasn’t at Catalan for the cup game, that ended up a result for naught anyway.

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Quote: rubber duckie "Say want you want about Price, but he gave me one of the best days out of my life, and certainly the best since 2009.
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Correct, in context, Warrington’s finest hour

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Good thing I'm off today, I'm gonna have to go through this again later with w71 over jamie peacock'"


Not at all. I offered an opinion, if you don't agree that's fine.

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Quote: Smiffy27 "We made 17 errors v Wigan.
I really couldn't give a monkeys about "funny" stunts by the club as it does not make a jot of difference to the game. I'm OK with the effort & the will to win by the team.
But for some reason we handle pressure very badly. This includes players & fans.'"


The fans partially to blame for the loss? How so?

Did we crumble under the pressure of playing Leigh in the league too?

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Quote: Wires71 "The fans partially to blame for the loss? How so?

Did we crumble under the pressure of playing Leigh in the league too?'"


I think he’s suggesting there is a nervous tension amongst the fans once things start going badly, not a belief we can turn it around if things start going wrong. Don’t think he was suggesting the supporters are to blame for team performances / results.

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Quote: Alffi_7 "I think he’s suggesting there is a nervous tension amongst the fans once things start going badly, not a belief we can turn it around if things start going wrong. Don’t think he was suggesting the supporters are to blame for team performances / results.'"


I agree there is a definite nervous tension in the crowd and lack of belief we can turn it round when we fall behind and play poorly. Coupled with frustration and exasperation. Usually for good reason.

Keen to explore the "pressure" issue as I don't believe that is all it is. The stakes were not high in the Leigh game and we stank the place out.

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Quote: Wires71 "Not at all. I offered an opinion, if you don't agree that's fine.'"

Nah, to be fair, I can see why anyone would suggest at least one of the leeds leaders during the golden generation (even if peacock was brought in) but most of their post playing careers so far have been rough, peacock at kr, Sinfield in his DOR post at leeds, he couldn't get out of their fast enough, jjb as an asset coach, mcguire was doing so so at kr, he's got a pretty good rep.

And kylie leuluai. Who I mentioned during last years show, who was specifically brought in as being able to teach our players about working in a professional high level team environment.

Maybe it's a sum of all the parts kinda thing.

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Quote: Wires71 "I agree there is a definite nervous tension in the crowd and lack of belief we can turn it round when we fall behind and play poorly. Coupled with frustration and exasperation. Usually for good reason.

Keen to explore the "pressure" issue as I don't believe that is all it is. The stakes were not high in the Leigh game and we stank the place out.'"


Not much doubt that nervous tension & pressure doesn't help performance. Because we were making so many mistakes, v.Wigan, we tried to keep it simple but you can't do that for ever as time slips away. Making 17 mistakes was horrendous. I remember watching the Leeds game, at the start of the season & saying we haven't made an error yet & that was just before half time.

Leigh had Lachlan Lam on fire & we got behind so there was pressure but not so much as in a Cup Semis. I have never played in or coached a team that gets booed or has to cope with so much scrutiny on social media ... but it's unlikely to go away so they better learn to deal with it.

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I didn't realise it's the spectators... It's just so damn annoying as fans training sessions had gone well last week !

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Quote: Smiffy27 "I have never played in or coached a team that gets booed or has to cope with so much scrutiny on social media ... but it's unlikely to go away so they better learn to deal with it.'"


In actual fact we are not under that much pressure really. No one is realistically expecting us to win a GF any time soon and we haven't won the league in the vast majority of supporters lifetimes. Spectators have booed since the time of ancient Greece.

I think Saints, Wigan, and Leeds have more pressure to maintain their excellent standards, and perhaps more scrutiny due to their larger support base.

I believe the problems at our club are from within, not the terraces or Facebook.

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Quote: Wires71 ".
I believe the problems at our club are from within, not the terraces or Facebook.'"


Could be spot on here but the term "within" is very broad ... and our "fantastic fans" are a bit fairweather & crack under pressure too.

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