Russell's not a winger and lineham must have the worst passing centre in the league.

from a neutral perspective i thought Gidley was one of your better players tonight. Its easy to look for people to point the finger at but imo it was the lack of punch in the pack aside from Simms and Hill is pretty non existant especially next to Wigan who had loads of go forward. If your going to point fingers tonight look no further than Westerman, made brain fart after brain fart and missed some bad one on ones.

Spot on.What I would have given to have seen Boyd,Tamati + Jackson on that field tonight + aside from Hilly the pack is crap imo.

Why the "Thugs" title by the OP, it was a gutsy display by Wigan whilst Wolves were all huff and puff in the second half. Might be your year next year, next year, next year.

The negative posting is ridiculous. Lineham was excellent bar one drop, Gidley should have passed it out near the end, put that was outweighed by many spot on kicks and tenacious defence, Sandow was excellent when he came on ( can't believe the idiot who posted to say he should have gone home!) We lost it in the forwards with lack of go forward, and it's no surprise with the players we had missing.

To those who are slagging the players off, you should be ashamed of yourselves. They put 100% in. There's always going to be a winner and loser. I'm gutted but no scape goats, we were so close again.

Every time rhys Evans got the ball I knew the attack was over or nothing would come of it. We've been carrying him all year and it cost us badly tonight. We need a couple of wingers but our completion and game management wasn't up to scratch tonight. Well done wigan (I hate you).

Your pack really fell short. Only hill busted any holes. Wigan really dominated in that area, every player was making metres after the collision, warrington didn't have this as much. Wigan had many more chance across the whole game and the scorline kind of flattered warrington. Wigan fully deserved to win, unfortunately. The wait goes on.

Gloss over it all you like but we've become known as the bottlers.Not saying the effort wasn't there but the fact of the matter is we cannot finish teams off in the big games + as I've already stated that was not the best Wigan team by a long chalk.2 lost finals in a season ain't good enough for this club esp the amount of money spent on players.

Maybe more people on here will see we need a bigger, more aggressive pack now. A classic contrast stood out - Wigan have Farrell we have Wilde.

Rather be runners up in Cup and Grand Final than mid table plodders.

Exactly. Rhys Evans offers zero attacking threat.

Agreed. We lacked the size tonight. If you add Westwood, Dodds, Currie and a fit Harrison we would have matched them.

When my team makes a grand final, I like them to win it. No good losing them, relentlessly.

Ahhhahahahaha.

All those Warrington trolls on the saints forum after saints lost. Never mind. At least you got the hub cap. You know, that bit of metal that was nothing when saints won it every year but now it's pride of place at Warrington hq.
Has any team ever choked in 2 finals in one season lols

Regards

King James

How old are you? I remember when a single final was enough to buy a coach a new contract regardless of the result. This year we've won one comp, and finished 2nd in the other two. We have no Devine right to win anything, and history certainly shouldn't give us any expectations.

As for 'bottling' it: in the past fortnight we closed out against Hull to win the LLS, then beat our nemesis to qualify for the GF. Hardly the form of bottlers is it? You can't blame the fact we got beat by a better team on the day as down to bottling it: that's just a lazy, ill-informed view.

Don't kid yourself Hull were obviously suffering from a massive Wembley hangover + less said about the Saints game the better but if winning eff all is good enough for you then your easily pleased + not a lazy ill informed view just my honest opinion + as for my age let's just say I'd guess I was watching Wires when you was just a twinkle in your fathers eye.

At last someone talking sense and not just here for a moan.

Agree, wigan just slightly better on the night. We were in then hunt for all 3 trophies, disappointing yes but it was a lot worse last year. I'd rather us lose a final than not get there.

Would say Saints have a lot to do to get back in contention with either side.Back to the drawing board.

When we lose 5 GF on the bounce like Saints 2007-11 I'll start to think we have a problem.

Saints 5 wins in 10 GF's for a 50% win ratio.

Dire 0 wins in 3 GF's for a 0% win ratio.

61 years and counting.

I suppose next year will be 'your year' though...

Not been 61 years of grand finals has there

Leeds. 2005

You post nothing for the whole week in the lead up to the game, then within minutes of the FT hooter, you're on here slagging us off.

Did you even go to the game?

Yeah, and what happened to those chokers after that? Oh wait, that doesn't fit with tonight's narrative does it...