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Quote: Mr Snoodle "I did something for the 1st time ever tonight in 40 years watching the Wire - I left with 15 minutes still to play. Even in the Anderson/Plange/DVDV days I never left that early.

What I have seen tonight is a team without heart, without leadership and certainly without any sort of gameplan.

The blame for me lies fairly and squarely at Tony Smith's door, no-one else's. He won us 3 challenge cups and gave us false hope in 2 grand finals but enough is enough, it's time to politely say thank you and show him and his team the door.

I don't know who we should get in to replace him, but I'm just a lowly supporter who has spent 40 years waiting for us to really come good - and who also won't be attending another game this season, so what do I know.

Rant over'"

Fair play for the 40 years support but what tony smith has done for this club HAS allowed us to come really good. It's cemented in history the challenge cup successes as well as 2011 League shield. Tonight's game was a poor showing by any standards of super league but the guy has earnt the time to turn it around.

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It's 3 years since we won anything, and IN MY OPINION I don't think that's good enough from what Smith has had at his disposal..... 2 years to replace Briers?? Come on...

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I can live with an out of sorts attack.. But no aggression or intensity in defence at home V Wigan?? Sorry that's just disgraceful ...
If the team plan to just go through the motions with no effort at all for the remainder of the season then they should let the fans know who part with thier hard earned..

Yours well and truly F####D off..!

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Quote: Mr Snoodle "It's 3 years since we won anything, and IN MY OPINION I don't think that's good enough from what Smith has had at his disposal..... 2 years to replace Briers?? Come on...'"


Are you a new a Wire supporter by any chance? Best thing for you is to support a Leeds for a bit and come back when we're sorted for next season. Actually don't come back.

TS has'nt had his best season by a long way and things arn't quite right but give the man a chance.

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Quote: Mr Snoodle "It's 3 years since we won anything, and IN MY OPINION I don't think that's good enough from what Smith has had at his disposal..... 2 years to replace Briers?? Come on...'"

aww you poor thing..3 years? how did you manage for the previous 30+ then? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: meast "aww you poor thing..3 years? how did you manage for the previous 30+ then?
Being ridiculed for lack of success by a Huddersfield fan. We really have hit rock bottom. LOL icon_biggrin.gif

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Just a terrible year. Every team has it. At least we aren't fighting relegation like Wigan had to at one point. I'd rather our slump be of this depth when we've seemingly remedied it for next year than to keep dropping from here on in. We have seriously been spoiled over the past five years, and it shows on this board. We have not been able to settle our squad at all this year, and it's apparent. Next year we will have people in places they should be and we will be miles and miles better, guaranteed.

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Quote: meast "aww you poor thing..3 years? how did you manage for the previous 30+ then?
Come on Meast, you mean you've forgotten our famous victory in the Regal Trophy v Bradford 91 (I think) the legend Dessie Drummond holding it aloft, and our a Premiership victory in 86 plus our Lancashire Cup win v Oldham in 89. Plus the British Coal international 7's under Tony Barrow at Central Park.

It's only a few but great memories. How have Hudds done in the past 30 years out of interest?

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Quote: Wires71 "Being ridiculed for lack of success by a Huddersfield fan. We really have hit rock bottom. LOL absolutely, wait til the widnes fans start icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gazwire "Come on Meast, you mean you've forgotten our famous victory in the Regal Trophy v Bradford 91 (I think) the legend Dessie Drummond holding it aloft, and our a Premiership victory in 86 plus our Lancashire Cup win v Oldham in 89. Plus the British Coal international 7's under Tony Barrow at Central Park.

It's only a few but great memories. How have Hudds done in the past 30 years out of interest?'"

point missed
the poster is kicking off because it's been 3 years since you won a trophy! but yet he's been following wire for 40 years, surely 3 years is nothing when you went 20 years without anything
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What strikes me is you look like a bunch of rugby league players who can pass and tackle a fair bit but not a TEAM.
There's little creativity. Sandow has a go- but no one else seems to know what he's got in mind. Key for me is ratchford looks massively underused as an extra pivot, he's about around the field but without structure and it looks like there's no set move pieces or real game plan other than go out and play rugby.
Warrington often bully teams but they seemed like they had no heart tonight.

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Totally agree WireWireWire. Too many fans who just expect us to win playing free flowing rugby with international signings, trouncing every side we play. Some of the posts on here are from posters who are spoilt little sport watchers in the Man U mould.

For me and many Wire supporters I know, the Wire as a club is number one. It's nice to have good rugby and it makes me so so proud when we win a trophy.

I'm also proud when we get good gates, but nothing makes me more proud than when our true fans get behind the side and make a great atmosphere. It's kind of weird now because I can now compare the experiences of following Wire since the very late 80's and singing in the Fletcher End with the feeling of being a fan in the successful period. They both have great feelings, but you know what, the feeling of winning as the underdog with a huge army of passionate Wire fans has given me more happiness than winning any trophy bar the Regal Trophy Win and our CC win in 2009- (because that passionate support was there in both those finals and so much more than in the following CC and GF finals where things were taken for granted).

Let's just be extremely grateful for SJM and TS and be positive for the future.

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Quote: Gazwire "Totally agree WireWireWire. Too many fans who just expect us to win playing free flowing rugby with international signings, trouncing every side we play. Some of the posts on here are from posters who are spoilt little sport watchers in the Man U mould.

For me and many Wire supporters I know, the Wire as a club is number one. It's nice to have good rugby and it makes me so so proud when we win a trophy.

I'm also proud when we get good gates, but nothing makes me more proud than when our true fans get behind the side and make a great atmosphere. It's kind of weird now because I can now compare the experiences of following Wire since the very late 80's and singing in the Fletcher End with the feeling of being a fan in the successful period. They both have great feelings, but you know what, the feeling of winning as the underdog with a huge army of passionate Wire fans has given me more happiness than winning any trophy bar the Regal Trophy Win and our CC win in 2009- (because that passionate support was there in both those finals and so much more than in the following CC and GF finals where things were taken for granted).

Let's just be extremely grateful for SJM and TS and be positive for the future.'"



Agreed, I'm a little young to have been around in the 80's, but I would imagine that fans old enough would be even more able to understand we can't always be on top. In the past 6 years we've had 3 CC wins, 2 GF appearances, 1 LLS, and a number of Semi Finals wherein we've barely been edged out. One year where we have quite a big slump and everyone's baying for blood. Some of the talk is crazy. Joel Monaghan hasn't had the greatest year but some of the comments on here saying we should kick him out are ludicrous to me. His form is a reflection of our TEAMS form and nothing else.

Next year we will be a completely different side I think. Sandow and the like will have had time to bed in, there will have been a full pre season of players training in new positions etc. I have complete faith we will be so much better next year.

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My apologies to the REAL Warrington fans on this board for being disappointed because "we have the best coach we've ever had" (to paraphrase some posters) yet we should still be happy with just a top 8 finish and a cup semi final defeat....... sorry for having an opinion that you don't agree with and I promise to never expect Warrington to win anything again and simply settle for medicrity for the next 40 years of being a fan, coz whatever happens, Wire are in my blood and I'll always be a fan, just like I'll always rant if I'm not happy with the way that feel my club is being run.

I don't need them to win every week, I just need them to look like they'll give their best when they pull on the shirt, and for some reason I don't see that passion from them all with Smith at the helm.

Oh, and thanks to the Hudds fan for his comments

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I don't blame any of our team for lack of effort tonight ,but Wigan had a game plan & we didn't ,so what are our coaching staff doing during training sessions ? Any one of our coaching staff could have gone along to Wigan & bought all the club videos to be studied.....Wigan studied the Wire & did a job on us. At times we were like headless chickens hoping someone else knew what to do.

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