Right now... The club needs for the sake of uplifting the supporter base a big win from somewhere...either on with a large victory through evidence of a well thought out game plan or off the field by some evidence of sound recruitment...in terms of the second For Karls clarification... Currie for 3 yrs isn't it

'Price' gets mentioned a few times.
That sends shudders down my spine.
With the exception of 3 or 4 games it was a period of 3 years that I would rather forget.

I would honestly prefer to be where we are now than where we were in that period.
History shows Price couldn't turn it round - and to be fair it's clear with hindsight there were bigger issues than many of us realized. But the manner of our play then was awful.
5 drives and a kick to Toby King (ironic given what happened at the weekend).

Yesterday was truly awful, but I am at least in the 'still caring' phase and not in the 'can't be @rsed' phase that I was in for most of 2019-2021.

But still not going to Cas......

Totally with you Fez, even with last years debacle there hasn't been a single secind that I've pined for the return of Steve Price. He took us further down the path to despair IMO, maintaining the knock out game victories hoodoo over saints is the only real positive.

And yet this is more of a Steve price team than he had....

Yes, Steve price knows exactly what sort of team we have at the minute.

I'm going to level it up a bit and say that Price wasn't as bad as this. (puts tin hat on) and no i don't pine for him..
Our last spell under Tony Smith was turgid and Price came in giving us structure. We were a hard team to beat and hardly had any blow out scores. Defensively we were miles ahead. A CC win, grand final runners up, to me is ahead of what i expect us to do under Powell. It was clear as daylight that Price couldn't take us to that next level as we often fell at the final hurdle or crashed out of the playoffs early. I feel we are more fragile under Powell. And further away from winning a GF.

With Price and Powell we have two coaches that couldn't/can't change the direction of a game once the game plan is not working. Smith and Price had the same problem in GF's, they couldn't get over the line. These games are win at all costs as Wigan proved.

The GF winners in the Super League era are all extremely strong from the Board down and driven by a dominant personality, we do not have that now and have not had that previously, we have wealthy people who are like ghosts in the Board room with a rather non-descript CEO ruling the roost. On the pitch change wont come until there is drive from the top down.

Powell now has the chance to get the club a GF win, or at least play like we can get that chance. We need to recruit cleverly now we have space.

The rugby under Price was awful, truly awful. But you could see that he had a plan not to lose, and you could see that the players were following that plan, frustratingly at times. Our wingers were essentially wide props.

So much so, we had a real attacking threat in Murdoch-Massilla, but he couldn’t trust him to do the basics well enough and we all stood scratching our heads why he’s only getting 15 minutes a game.

Can’t say that of Powell to be fair, he does get the riskier players on, to a fault at times. Kasiano, Philbin, Mikaele and Bullock (I would include Dudson too, but I don’t think he’s even worth 10 mins) are all best used in short bursts as human cannonballs in most people’s opinion. But the result of that is the inefficiency in defence.

It all stems from the top. We have a bloke in charge who is more bothered about Whizzy Rascal's cameo and turning us into a NFL team than disgraceful performances like we seen on Sunday.

ok lets do this again, when was the last whizzy rascal cameo?

Oh has Whizzy Rascal and that running Green Man gone now? That's all I went the game for.

Here's my 2 pennorth....I think we are too comfortable as a club and there is no one with a burning desire to derail the gravy train of long extensions, lucrative overseas contracts when you come for your holidays, and general mediocrity.

Everyone knows that the finances are good, the facilities are second to none, the players are well looked after, the hierarchy seem happy if you win a few more than you lose, no one gets shouted at if you can't be 4rsed (so it seems)....so why should anyone do anything different?

If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best.

But they won't, the arrogance, laziness and acceptance of mediocrity will continue, and us mugs will keep paying to watch it.

Rant over.

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It was tongue in cheek.

However, Whizzy Rascal, Wolfie going to St Helens, Kiss cam, Wire Flyer and NFT’s it’s all nonsensical.

Quote ="Mr Snoodle" If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best. '" I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/

Quote ="Mr Snoodle" If the club truly want to win a GF I think they need to engage a Change Management consultant to come in and upset everyone. Show them what they are missing, make them hungry for success, point out that the paying fans earn a lot less than them in the main, and will continue to support the team long after they have hung up their boots, or buggered off back to Oz, so surely they owe it to them to do their best and give them 80 minutes a week of committed, do or die rugby - win or lose, at least look like they are a professional outfit who try their best. '" I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/

Quote ="Wires71"I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/'" we dont need him, we've got kyie leuluai. also, how did peacock get on as football manager at Hull KR in 2016?

Quote ="Wires71"I would love Jamie Peacock to work with the performance team, even on a short term basis. He knows what it takes to win and how to build mental resilience. https://www.jamiepeacock.co.uk/'" we dont need him, we've got kyie leuluai. also, how did peacock get on as football manager at Hull KR in 2016?

you got anything more recent than 18 months ago?

pay someone to come in and tell us what we already know? thats very uncle rog style thinking

Oh sorry I didn’t realise we were just using dates that suited you, I was talking about his whole tenure. I did mention that in my original post, maybe re read it.

Since you brought the last 18 months up though, you do know we finished 11th in the last season and would have been relegated had it not been for a shocking team like Toulouse playing in the same league, don’t you?

its not dates that suits me, its just of those things that you were using to attack him when the most recent one was. which i probably did last year when you brought up the wolfie stunts, from 2 years prior, if he/we the club aren't doing these things anymore clearly we've learned,

why dont you have a pop at the inconsistency and unfairness of the current hoover half time challenge, the first couple of games were an actually washing machine sized washing machine, now its a slightly larger cardboard cut out, which is completely unfair on the people that did it with the washing machine.

madness.

They were merely examples of foolish ideas that have been implemented by Fitzpatrick during his time here. If you want me to list things more recently I can give you; performances, form, finishing second bottom, recruitment, contract extensions, loaning our best centre to our biggest rival, coaching appointments, etc.

Wolfie got sent off last week for sunbathing - KFP was probably ecstatic with the amount of 'eyes across that' - blurgh!

I don't mind the little stunts like above - ones that don't offend/wind up the opposition and give people a little chuckle (if that amuses you). I don't think we're prioritising daft stunts over success on the field but for me I'd be knocking the first one on the head for a while until we establish this winning culture - it just tends to make us look like the joke.

Ah yeah I forgot that one. Have that one then FMC. It's all well and good doing these stunts when we're winning all the time and we've a GF in the bag or at least won more than one Challenge Cup in the last 12 years but when we're doing it whilst serving up the sort of tripe on the pitch as we've been doing for the last few years it kinda gets peoples backs up a little bit.

And that got your back up so much you were sooooo bothered by it, you completely forgot about it, and someone else had to remind you.

Deffo got your back up, didn't it.

I have no idea what you're going on about. You asked for a recent example, someone has provided one, you've been proved wrong. There is no need to be upset about it.