Well obviously its creating something because if the drummers weren't there you could hear a pin drop. Some of you may hate drums because you go to watch rugby and not sing silly songs. However people have just as much right to go to the games and bang a drum. If people in the east stand joined in (or anyone for that matter) do you really think people would be on here asking if there is a point in trying?

Some on here are far too miserable and look over a think 'bloody kids with that drum making a racket' I d say that though those 'kids' may not have watched the game as long as you, I think their passion burns brighter than many on here. Going out of their way to try and rally a crowd isn't easy and they never give up.

In a nut shell, how many years did we wait for this? and now we have something to sing and celebrate about they don't! £10 bet now though says that on majic weekend all the 'passionate' fans will be out and bouncing underneath the stands again. I've never seen so many people joining in in my life! Time have changed I thought... Maybe people will get involved now. No such luck. Its a shame but its all down to ale.

Away games on a Friday or Saturday. The fans a re bouncing. Why? They've been drinking all the way there! CC and GF? Drinking all day. soon as it comes to a home game there's no one in the pubs any more, I remember when you couldn't move in the kings head, Railway, Rodney or the Red lion.


If there are those out there who want to improve the home game atmosphere then Please try and get in the new corner.


P.S. Trying to 'force' an atmosphere upon people does work. Look at the Celtic green brigade. It's only them singing half the time but when they get the ground jumping they really get it jumping. I guess it must be sad for you feeling as you the atmosphere is being 'forced' to all those trying that's just them at a normal game. I only wish everyone felt the same a them

To the earlier comment on standing in the centre. I would stand directly in the middle if we was allowed to but health and safety got onto us saying that even on the 20 metre line the chants and singing were interferring with the stewards walkie talkies. In the new corner the singing and chanting last week, is definately louder as the corner echoes the sound all around the ground

I seriously started to laugh out loud at this post.

I didnt post this on here to start an argument between the fans when we obviously are all there for the same reason no matter what views u have on chanting. I just no the atmosphere and fans when we get right behind the players during a game, Does motivate them and makes them feel like we are the extra man they sometimes need. Some of the players have even commented about it in the guardian at the start of the season.

I no its never going to get like the old geordie days as no1 has that booming voice he had to start the chants. But i think everyone can agree that the place can definately be a more exciting place than it has been all year to date.

And i do agree with the comment earlier that you can kinda force an atmosphere when you look at the likes of european football. For them its all about playing at home and making the away team scared of them.

And yes the walkie talkie comment is 100% true lol. They even made one of the lads move their drums by 5ft!!!! To stop the inteference haha

But if drummers weren't there, after a while people would start to make spontaneous songs up and after a while they'd catch on and songs with far better words than "der der der der der der" (whoch seem to go hand-in-hand with drums) can get going. Incessant drumming is monotonous and annoying and most songs that go along with them are garbage. What happened to songs with words? What happened to "Waaaaarrigton...Waaaaarrington..."?

Drums are needed when a stadium holds 60/70/80000 with a vocal stand that holds 20000 that is full and everyone needs a beat to keep in time. When a whole ground holds 15000 and the vocal stand holds 6000 and isn't full, there absolutely no need for a drum. Drums bring a forced and unnatural, manufactured atmosphere. Real atmosphere will rise and fall with the excitement and drama of a game and I think if we went a couple of years without any drums this natural atmosphere would be well evolved and would be better than it's been for a while.

The Hull clubs don't have a drum, and they're arguably the best two clubs for atmosphere.

Being original is key as well. Singing the same tired old songs or just following the same tired old "der der der der der der der" tunes that have been going around since the mid 90s that half the team sports clubs in England sing or "der" along to, is surely now run it's course?

On the drums, i'm in the minority camp of i don't care either way, i know they're divisive but i don't notice them, i'm usually engrossed in the game.
Singing, sometimes i do, i get in the mood love it, sometimes im quiet and just cba with it.
Sometimes i sit in the East, sometimes go in the West most of the time in the south and occasionally treat myself to the north.
You can't cater for everyone in one big catch all.
I do despair that the 'old farts' moan about people just trying to create a better experience for themselves, if that's their thing then just let them be if they doing no wrong.
No the young ones need to be aware that these 'old farts' as you call them have been there and done that and it's their prerogative to be quiet, they're there for the game and that's enough for them.
We've got to just except that people want different things from their match day experience.
Non of our opinions are right or wrong but i'm certainly not going to criticise people with good intentions.
These 'drummers' are just as enthusiastic about the club than those who research the history of our club, they are just as important.

We are all one, Lupus Non Mordet Lupum has never been more appropriate.

I pretty much agree with this. Like most I have never been the type to start a chant, rather I used to follow and join in (still do at the right times and the right chant). I genuinely believe that the drums have replaced those characters who would start chants meaning chants now basically involve a 'dum de dum WIRE'.

How do you bang out 'GI' ME A DOUBLEYOU'?

I may come across as not liking the drums however (despite them moving in 'next door' the past couple of weeks) I can take them or leave them.

People support their team in different ways. If you and your mates want to try and get them going with the drum, go for it. The more you try, the more you will realise what does and doesnt work. Keep at it lads.

This (glad to see you've got your head back together ha ha) and very fair.

Good luck to the people in the corner, I hope that you can gain some support as I believe that your hearts are in the right place. One observation, not a criticism, but, I stand on the 40 towards the West in the South and you definately need some back up

Spot the Victor Meldrews LMAO what next don't speak until half time

Please tell me at which point I said everyone needs to get bladdered? Its mearly an observation I have noticed for some time now and you can't tell me that drink doesn't encourage people to get involved more. Because if thats what you honestly think then it is you that is really daft. All I'm saying is that its a factor.

And how is it a stupid comment to say you can try to force an atmosphere? If all you do is come on here to critisize people that are actually trying to make an effort then I feel really sorry for you. Some people don't half moan, If them lads get it going at home games and they pull it off I'd bet now that you'd join in and love to see the whole stand going for it every game.

Idiots like them are more than welcome over there because the last thing they need is people like you moaning. And as for the comment "then everyone can get on with watching the game and supporting the wire" There are many ways of supporting. Firstly we've all supported by paying for a ticket, some people also choose to sing and get behind the team when their heads are down. To me thats the idea of a supporter. singing and lifting them up when they're going through a tough spell, showing them that we arn't discouraged and therefore they shouldn't be. Ask any player they love to hear the songs. At keighley banterous songs were sang to the players that some may find inappropriate. However I've seen Joel and Myler killing themselves laughing at them, they love it.

Too many rules in the ground. No swearing, no gestures, no standing on the yellow lines. It's killed the fun that used to be the game. You're scared to say anything now incase you're reported to a steward. I'm all for it being a family game and protecting children from bad language and aggression but it is a major factor for killing the atmosphere I think. Maybe there should be a section of the south for families? Or make the north east a family section? that way if you do decide to take children into the standing then you know the risk you are taking. Just an Idea.


I'm not having a go at anyone, that seems to be other poeoples job on here. I'm just stating a view. You are welcome to yours but to call someone daft and idiots without even knowing them? Get a gip.

You could start spreading the word over there if you know of anyone interested