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Quite true about a still picture, but I commented on the fact he looked like he was gouging Hilly whilst watching it live so it can't have been off the face that quickly

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But the RL rules do state that you cannot use a head guard as a lever or grip point to complete a tackle because it's attached to the head and therefore a head high tackle; so I guess we can blame (again) poor on field refereeing ??

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Watched the match back, no doubt it is totally deliberate and Hill drops the ball in reaction to the gouge.

Hardaker is a disgrace.

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Thought it was deliberate at the time but maybe thats because I think Hardaker is a horrible scrote and my judgement is clouded.

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Nothing will get done, I just hope Mr Hill gets a chance for payback (legally) the next time we play.

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No surprise, ah well I am sure Hill has moved on already as should we!

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Zak will be gracing the Wembley turf where he belongs. Have a sour grape for me, I don't like 'em.

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Quote: leeds owl "Zak will be gracing the Wembley turf where he belongs. Have a sour grape for me, I don't like 'em.'"


Whether Zak "graces" the Wembley turf or not, I'd say the lad needs to watch his step.

Acting the tit in an England camp, days before the World Cup starts, then throwing abuse around, the following season, isn't exactly endearing himself to the RL watching public.
Add to this, an accusation of gouging (some say he did, some say he didn't), he isn't gaining many friends, apart from the supporters of his own team, much in the mould of a certain "hardman" prop, the same team employs.

Sour grapes has nothing to do with it (I don't remember the incident, and have deleted it from my Sky+ box, and have no particular inclination to revisit it). The lad's going the right way to be thought of as the next Gaz Hock. And we all know how much of a whopper he is, eh chaps?

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Quote: leeds owl "Zak will be gracing the Wembley turf where he belongs. Have a sour grape for me, I don't like 'em.'"

good player who seems to get better year after year..its just a shame hes turning into a horrible little rat similar to a fb who used to play for a team just up the m6..and he copped a few dustings for his actions..and the same will happen to this latest member of the scrotes club..

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Quote: sir adrian morley "good player who seems to get better year after year..its just a shame hes turning into a horrible little rat similar to a fb who used to play for a team just up the m6..and he copped a few dustings for his actions..and the same will happen to this latest member of the scrotes club..'"


That particular "little rat" copped more abuse from opposition fans than Hardaker ever has, despite the latter's homophobic outbursts, and he copped it purely because fans (including me) hated the fact he didn't play for their team, and they feared him accordingly.

He also played with pride and distinction for England, and long may he continue to do so, and is now amongst those flying the flag for England down-under.

Hardaker is disliked for totally different reasons, and I suspect he is as unlikeable off the field as he is on it.

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Quote: leeds owl "Zak will be gracing the Wembley turf where he belongs. Have a sour grape for me, I don't like 'em.'"


I can't see you beating Castleford , with all the ball and field position you had Saturday you never really blown us away like a top team would of don,t look at this as sour grapes cause I wouldn't begrudge sinfield winning the challenge cup so i'm happy to see either team win

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Quote: leeds owl "Zak will be gracing the Wembley turf where he belongs. Have a sour grape for me, I don't like 'em.'"


Unless he gets p****d the night before and then loses his chance. Well, either getting p****d or verbally abusing people with homophobic slurs. Or both.

You know, because that's just what he does....

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I fear that Hardaker is a very talented Rugby League player but he is not the sharpest tool in the box and I feel that he will consistently court controversy.
I hesitate to compare him with Hock but have some sympathy with the argument.
In the latest incident I think he has been very fortunate. Another example of top players at top clubs being given the benefit of the doubt. I wonder if the outcome would have been in the same if that incident had occurred in a lower division match.

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Hill has received 8 match ban for attacking Hardakers finger with his eyelash.

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