Great minds must think alike !

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The boy can score tries that no other player in SL can score. Unfortunately other aspects of his game seem to need working working on. Maybe TS is just ironing them out before unleashing him.

Correct, we would have him back in a heartbeat, played extremely well for us did Kevin and, although I understand why he's not in your first team, he's got alot to offer on a rugby field.

I think when given his chance,he will prove a lot f his doubters wrong.

I hope he does get this chance, i'm not convinced he will, but I live in hope.

I guess he's got to get a volume of tries for the 20's that promotes his chances, and he needs to do whatever the coaching staff need to see.

He's 2 in 1 this season so far, if he carries that on, he'll be knocking on Che's door.

He did well @ Widnes last season, maybe his level in the championship not Super League?

He's done well for us too.

Lots of his tries come against the best sides too, scored scored a fair few against Saints [inc a hat-trick], tries against Leeds, Wigan etc so it's not like he just does well when we're on top, but he has got hat-tricks that I can recall against Wakefield & Salford.

I'm being serious here, maybe somebody [I'm not there] could ask Smith at that Q&A thing later what exactly what it is that he's looking for Penny to improve before he'll fetaure in SL, as in, what is he lacking. He might give us an insight ?

I'm with JWP on this one, all the way.

I'd love to see Kevin Penny tearing it up in Super League in primrose and blue, love it. Unfortunately as time progresses it looks like his chances of doing that are nil, and it perplexes me. His enthusiasm and talent deserves to be showcased, and I think that it will do so eventually - I just hope that it is spreading the game and thrilling crowds at Quins, Wrexham or even Perpignan (and if you've seen any of Les Catalans wide defence this season, you'd think Penny looked like Nathan Hindmarsh) rather than at one of our rivals (doubt it would be Wigan, having seen how their fans abused Ainscough, a very similar player).

He's only a young lad so stop knocking him, he could turn out to be world class and if we offloaded him now, it could be a huge mistake in the long term.

Penny reminds me of Calderwood. Fast as but not got a natural rugby brain. The level of anticipation you need as a winger can only be picked up from playing rugby from an early age, knowing how the ball will bounce, knowing if an opponent is gonna kick behind you or pass! Penny is a great athlete but has a lot of catching up to do to be a top level RL player. I reckon TS is also looking at how wingers return kicks. He prefers them to get a quick ptb rather than get stood up and dragged back 10 yards.

You're not being serious here are you. Are you really at a loss to what he needs to improve on?

Absolutely serious.

There's plenty of myths like, no doubt you'll throw one of them at me ...

He's plop under the high ball.

He can't tackle.

He's always out of position.

I'd like to know what areas of his game that Smith sees as the problem for him, ie, what is holding him back from featuring in SL right now, and moreso, how does he put these things right, what can a coach do to help Kev, what can Kev do to help himself etc ???

Maybe there's things that we don't see as problems that Smith sees as problems, I don't know. Perhaps he isn't strong enough in exit sets, can't win the floor to get a quick play of the ball that sort of stuff, I'd be interested to know from a Coach's propsective.

At the end of the day Penny is simply not good enough to be a regular SL player and wont be getting a game anytime soon unless half the team get struck down by some mysterious illness....We should get rid or at least send him back out on loan where we can save some money on his wage.