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Quote: runningman29 "Surely can't forget Dessie off that list!'"


Indeed, please forgive me icon_smile.gif

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Quote: shinymcshine "This illustrates the sort of issues with these 'legends' polls - we perceive 'legends' based on a particular time fence from when we grew up watching the game, in the above list early 80s-90s.

We tend to exclude 'legends' we never saw play, or include them because of the opinion of others, then often deride those modern players because of more recent exposure or negativities that things were better/tougher in the past.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong, its just skewed opinion.'"


Yes very true. Mike Nic and Brian Bevan the exception to the 80-90s.

However I would have to bit my lip if someone votes for Ashton Sims over Harry Bath (for example)

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I liked Hesford, he was a great goal kicker, but legend? Obviously this is a matter of opinion, a bit like my sneaking regard for Glenn Knight...perhaps it's a hair thing?

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Quote: shinymcshine "This illustrates the sort of issues with these 'legends' polls - we perceive 'legends' based on a particular time fence from when we grew up watching the game, in the above list early 80s-90s.

We tend to exclude 'legends' we never saw play, or include them because of the opinion of others, then often deride those modern players because of more recent exposure or negativities that things were better/tougher in the past.

Hey, nobody is right or wrong, its just skewed opinion.'"



And also why saints ended up with a statue of kieron cunningham, rather than anyone else of the greats that have played for them.

They have more younger fans that have seen his entire career and grown up with him, that are social media active.

Arguably, in 30 years people will look back and remember him as being one of their greats(having forgotten his coaching spell) but i'll bet as a relatively young man, he thinks its weird that there's a bronze statue of him somewhere*


*that looks like andy farrell.

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Although effectively based on 1 year I would suggest Jiffy must be close to legend status.

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Quote: Captain Hook "Although effectively based on 1 year I would suggest Jiffy must be close to legend status.'"


Ah, that magical 1993-94 season, where we ever so nearly won the league, and JD was the Man of Steel.

Then again, Graham Appo was amazing in 2003 for a season, but I doubt many would call for him to be a Wires Legend.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Ah, that magical 1993-94 season, where we ever so nearly won the league, and JD was the Man of Steel.

Then again, Graham Appo was amazing in 2003 for a season, but I doubt many would call for him to be a Wires Legend.'"


Appo was every other game from about half way through the season.

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Appo shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as Davies unless the sentence was along the lines of “Appo nowhere near as good as Davies”.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "Appo was every other game from about half way through the season.'"


Yes, but that's my selective memory skewing the truth and how it affects the judgement of a 'legend' icon_smile.gif

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people will see Davies as a legend.. mainly because for alot of people, he still remains the best player they have ever seen in a warrington shirt.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "people will see Davies as a legend.. mainly because for alot of people, he still remains the best player they have ever seen in a Widnes shirt.'"


Amended to cast doubt on legend eligibility.

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Quote: shinymcshine "Amended to cast doubt on legend eligibility.'"

Unlikely he knew any better at the time!

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Quote: Wires71 "Indeed, please forgive me
Ok just a left for you Iro wasn't as lucky icon_lol.gif

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Quote: shinymcshine "As much as I liked Brett Hodgson he was only here for 3 yrs and less than 100 apps. To me I'd expect a bit more longevity from a 'legend' to even make the shortlist.'"



He's up there in the top three overseas players I've ever seen at this club. In reality he was more influential than both Boyd and Blake, the two others in my top three. He was just absolute quality.

In my opinion we equaled Boyd when we signed Morley (maybe i'm being kind to Moz) and we surpassed Blake when we signed Davies. I didn't manage to see Derek Whitehead play but saw all full backs after him. and non were better than Hodgson.

I wouldn't be bothered if Johnno was named at full back he was the next best....and quite rightly He's earned his Legend status as both player and coach.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "people will see Davies as a legend.. mainly because for alot of people, he still remains the best player they have ever seen in a warrington shirt.'"


Still the case for me. Even compared to the likes of Langer, Johns, Michael Monaghan and Briers, Davies for his brief spell at the club was the best player I've seen in real life.

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