Ive had enough of Lowes and this shower of 5hite already.

Its time to cut our losses and admit the board have messed up AGAIN.

If you want amateur performances with crap results then stick with the amateur coaching set up.

The players are not fit and look overweight or like they are carrying to much muscle.

Get in the queue buddy!!!!!

pmsl might as well get basil fawlty in then eh

I'll second that.

Ellery will instil discipline and change the culture.

At this moment I'd rather have Nobby than Lowes.

Would Hanley want to do it? If not, what are the alternatives if Lowes was to be sacked?

If were going to sack Lowes then Hanley would be my first choice.

We need someone who will command respect and get rid of the players who aint interested or wont show the required commitment or work ethic.

The current set up is a shambles.

Hanley and Mr Moran are very close, i expect he will be in the hot seat soon enough. Jimmy as great a guy as he is doesnt have the respect of the supporters and will soon be out the door.

Would rather have Tony Smith.

No thanks.

His stock went down after that shocking world cup debacle.

Better than Lowes though, anyone is better than Lowes.

I agree over the World Cup, but he did ok at club level with Leeds, I would still be happy to give him a chance at Warrington.

I'll have Smith anyday.

I don't see what the big thing with Hanley is. Sure he is one of the most coverted players in the game and he has coached a GF winning team. I just can't see him being in it for the long term. If his appointment is to settle the ship and bring some sort of respect back from the players and fans well maybe a good idea. IMO 18 months and he would be on his way onto a new venture. I would like to be proved wrong and he turns out be the guy that turn the players around into a champion team.

Oh I'm not saying he should stay, just that it's a bad time to be looking for a top class coach. I don't know much about Hanley's links to the board or whatever, just wondering if everyone's sure he would take the job. If not, who else is available? It's a bit of a mess for any coach to be walking into, since there'd be so little scope for getting your own players in, working on your own patterns etc.

You know what, I'm tired of all this.

Out of loyalty we all support the appointment of someone who has never done the job before, nor carried anywhere near the weight of responsibility of coaching a potential Top 4 club, then we see our when it all goes wrong.

The board appoint the coach. The board have made another mistake.

Look further up the organisation at why we are moribund.

We need some one to conduct a clear out and some one to instill discipline and proffessionalism.

The only man with the balls to do the job properly is IMO Ellery Hanley.

Why would he have to have a clear out, surely if Hanley gains so much respect the players themselves should be disciplined and professional enough to change.

the big thing is he is not Lowes to be honest the board have to act now get a new coach , i do not think the club can sustain another bad run over the next few weeks or numbers will dwindle , and in this economic climate not the place to be

Hanley isnt the answer. What did he do at cas. Took them from cellar dwellers to...ummm..cellar dwellers. He hasnt a clue.

I could have won the title with the playing staff Saints had at the time.

Your right Steve. Hanley would not be an Alex Fergusen type of appointment. He woule be here for 6-18 months to change the philosophy and whole environment of the club.
He would bring self belief. Currently we make a mistake / Give a penalty away in our half and everybody suspects we might concede even though we are a player up. It look like the players feel that way as well.

I think that Hanley was the catalyst to their success over the last 10 years. They were not a bad team before that in fact i would go as far to say good but since he was there they have become great. His job was done just as it was at Doncaster and leave it to somebody to build on his work.

I hope Lowes stays and turns it around but I am having massive groundhog day moments here. The game tonight was like Harlequins at home last year when everything was in our favour, Dragons had 2 big players out in Ryles and Raguin and lost Carlaw for the full game early on.
They were down to 12 men for 10 minutes and we still couldnt do it.
That is a difference in mental attitude and not coaching. Lowes did not drop the passes, Hold players down and make tackles when you are in an offside position.

You can be as fit and strong as you want with all the skills in the world but if the desire is not there then you have very little. In that second half Dragons were starting sets 10 yards out but were getting to halfway to make the kick or getting a free ride from a penalty.

Poor.

I'm with you on that Buddie, I don't know who the right man to lead our team is but felt Lowes was the wrong appointment and still do.

Moribund - I like that word. I remember an Alan Partridge sketch about that once .

I am fairly certain we have Tony Smith lined up for next year. If we haven't, then Lowes is a disaster. If he is, then I can just about cope (just). If Smith is not lined up, then get Noble in now. He'll sort out our defence. And yes, I know Wigan have lost their first three, but look at their squad - nowhere near our quality.