So our "Director of Rugby" has no say in it?  


I think our problem is at the exec level. It spans coaches and players, the only thing that hasn't changed over the decade. 


It's the big boys train set. 

I like McNamara too and he has excellent credentials.

But without more sweeping change behind the scenes I bet it would be a repeat of the Powell experience.


Continuing dysfunction and in about a year this forum would be full of fans blaming 'McBanana' for team selection / stuff he said in interviews after defeats and demanding a coaching change. 


Then he'd go somewhere else and do better than us. 

If you’re having a laugh, getting leathered with the players after pitiful defeats or jumping back on your hired private jet after a Las Vegas debacle - you don’t really care do you? You don’t really hurt watching us fail and fail again. 

The 'top 3 triangle' are ultimately responsible for the sanctioning of new signings & extending the contracts of players, with plenty of input from the Director Of Rugby and the senior coaching staff, as well as advisors that are used in Australia. It's their money that's being spent afterall. But nobody seems to mention them when criticising the clubs structure & on/off field results, which I suspect is down to the money they've put in to the club over the years. Imagine what position we'd be in now without them, especially SM.

I’ve got Haircut 100 going round in my head now. 

I think Moran has credit in the bank for the stuff pre 2009 however Middleton should be criticised as much as Karl IMO. As Wires71 said, we have gone backwards since he came in. As someone who loves to tell you how much money he's ploughed into the club having been in his company a couple of times, I'd be interested to know if he is willing to take some responsibility for the poop show we are witnessing before our very eyes.

Especially as a Yorkshireman with zero ties to the town, happy to take the money and the publicity to put himself in the shop window for his much-longed-for return to Aus. 

Anyway my question is: did Harthill run over Sam's dog or something?

Yes agreed. Behind the scenes needs to change or nothing will. 

No that was Lomax - director. Loves socialising with the players. 

I don't think you can criticize them then, the club are paying people to advise and they are taking on board the advice given. The serious lack of quality falls on the people giving this advise. I have zero knowledge of who we use and if its the same people but if it is, after decades of poor recruitment with the odd exception id be cutting ties with no leaving card.