What concerns me is that we have directors & investors & a good sponsorship base which the directors must surely want to keep delivering income. The main income is the game on the pitch & the reason the club exists. Apart from the team performances ,the directors will be conducting the business of attracting off field revenue. 
Surely ,you would expect the money people to be tearing their hair out at the results & the effect on attendances.
Today's gate was poor considering there were special offer to flog tickets. They should be asking questions as to why fans are drifting away.

yea i get this... i mean, i certainly wont be giving them any of my money again this season.


if they aren't trying, im not paying.

Is it not trying or is it not good enough? So strange, we get a GF winning and stick him on the wing, whom I might add looks as immobile as this old man writing the post.

The dummy half passes were woeful today and Williams passing choices at the line were predictable as best.

Honest i get why we keep missing out on props for years now, since the Times we had Morley and Carvell, we seem to run with one quality prop and the rest are average.
So good big hard hitting props must look at us and realise we run with one quality prop, so they'll have most of the work load to carry.
We currently have Vaughan, big powerful aggressive hard hitting props that gets us moving forward, paired with Yates... good engine and defends well, but not a prop and doesn't have the size.
Harrison good engine, defends well.
Philbin aggressive attacking based game, has 1-2 great games then is average the rest of the time.
Wood, Decent, skillfull, good engine....same size as philbin.
Thomas, watching him today he's smaller than i remember and looks lighter than Wood and Philbin.
Crowther, good engine, aggressive, average in any position he plays.
We are WEAK in the forwards and can never seem to attract them.
Burgess is obsessed with athletic props and i find it bizzarre. We need punch and we need it 10 years ago.
Vaughan carries the team when he plays, and we drop off when he comes off. We lose the forward battle all the time, and we literally rely on the our backs to take us forward. King literally gets us moving forward and off our line more than anyone.
My Dad was born in 1955 so has gone his entire life never seeing us win the league. I'm 41 now and have a feeling of dread i could literally never see us win in my entire life.
We've been in this average to poor, with the occasional really good year, for 10+ years.
And coach after coach can't change or progress us, so i completely agree that it points to behind the scenes, especially since Powell was in charge it's amplified this feeling.


I'm absolutely the same in that i believe only someone like Wane (with full control) Will change this club.
I would LOVE to be proved wrong though, but my confidence in us changing and winning gets less every single year.
It's hard being a wire fan.

Hi Damienc,


Let me make sure I understand you correctly; you'd keep Tai and Powell but let Currie go?  Have you considered a role in our recruitment team?


Williams, incidentally, is not a great player.  He's a very good one when he chooses to be - but that has been seldom in his Wire career.   The last decent performance from a Wire halfback was v Saints.  A certain Mr Currie.


In 2025 we have regressed to 2005.  Same lack of professionalism, same lack of backbone and same chance of winning the GF - none.


Sack the coach by all means, then sack his assistants, the recruitment team and the CEO.  Anything else is deckchairs/Titanic.

We won a hell of a lot more games in 2005, we had better players who put in shed loads more effort, and 10 times more backbone with pride in the club and just got on with it all. We're currently NOTHING like we were in 2005.........unfortunately.

We looked a pretty sorry outfit today. Powell should be way down the list of players to build a team around - no zip with ball in hand and some absolutely woeful distribution.  Williams is really miles off it at the moment, not sure if it is a fitness thing but he isn't really offering any more than Ratchford was.

To be brutally honest we keep hold of Ashton, Thewlis and Walker. Bin the rest, who either have the talent but can't be bothered, or work dilligently but have no natural skill to speak of.

you're not far off there to be honest.

Incidentally, which of those two categories do you put Currie, Sneyd, Dufty, and Harrison in?

2005 we finished 4th, one point behind Bradford in 3rd. We could only dream of finishing in one of those positions this year or in the next few. We are rotten to the core.