We're struggling now mate..so get rid of certain players and give the young uns ago..yes they may beat but so are this lot...

I would definitely play Ben Hartill as a substitute until Danny Walker plays in the 1st team again.

Powell offers very little threat from dummy half, and Crowther even less (Hard to believe that is possible).


The opposition players know that that the ball is just going to be passed to the first receiver and can consequently easily target him.

With Lindop out, and Harrison missing next week due to HIA, there needs to at least two changes.  Jake Thewliss to the wing is the most obvious but we're short in the forwards.  He could bring Whitehead in or he could play Crowther as a middle and give Hartill a chance.  We've not seen much of him but, from what we did see, he didn't look out of place.

Yates isn't a starting propPowell is one dimensional as a hooker
Tai and King are decent in defence and woeful in attack
Williams is the personification of a conceited, under performing club
Crowther is championship level
Burgess and his coaching staff have no excuses and no answers
Recruitment policy is back of a fag packet stuff


The youngsters suggest a bright future - but they are dropping like flies, either due to bad luck or over exposure.


Next week is make or break.  Lose that and we can start planning for 2026 - starting with the entire coaching team.

Yes we may as well play the young players as they are our future, as said previously, we are losing anyway. 

Congratulations to Sam Burgess on being a big name.

All this talk of a clear out sounds familiar. 


Remember at the end of the Steve Price era, we were fed up of underachieving and there was general consensus that we needed a clear out. The team with guys like Hill, Clark, Cooper, Charnley, Austin, Lineham has all been dismantled now.


Now which of those players have we managed to replace with an upgrade?


If you do a clear out and you bring in players of less quality than the guys who leave, you're going to have a weaker team. Whatever changes you have in the coaching staff or club CEO/directors, you can't get around that basic problem.


We're unlikely to be able to do another complete overhaul of the squad, the only solution is consistently good recruitment over 4-5 years to build the team, in the way that we did from around 2007-2012. 

Agree with this. Complete clear out is fraught with problems and never really a goer. Keep the good 'uns & improve recruitment is best plan ... if only it was so simple. 

I’ve just had an unfortunate experience of being forwarded the latest LinkedIn offerings from Mr Fitzpatrick. What an atrocious tool this man is - get that berk out of my club. 

Been saying it for years.

I thought when you appointed Burgess it was a massive risk and probably not the type of coach you needed similar to us at Leeds with the dross we had in the coaching department until Arthur came in.
He is the sort of coach you need at Warrington and won`t stand for any nonsense and says it as it is.
Burgess has however shown in glimpses that he can get the best out of a team.
The worry is that is not consistent and is prepared to play the big I am which will soon lose it`s sparkle once the journos get stuck in to him.
He also gives me the impression he wants to be one of the lads and is living off his past life as a player who others look up to.
That`s not what you want at your Club you need the hard nosed coach who will kick ass imo.
Sorry if I`m sounding like I know your club but I do think you are very similar to us in a lot of ways and we have been through the pain for a very long time.