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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"Yes why I loved RL was
1. Gladiatorial contest, passion, honesty. (think Boyd/Tamati/Sorenson/Ward et al)
2. Fast paced, skilful rugby. (think JD, Blake, Woods, Offiah, Gleeson, Newlove, Hanley, Gregory et al)
3. Hero players that you could relate to and close to the fans. (Mike Greg, Cul, John Bevan et al)
What I don't like currently is
1. Formulaic, predictable, dull RL.
2. Identikit players, loss of specialism.
3. Feigning injury (never thought I would see the like)
4. The absolute mess that follows one tackle before the play the ball. I'm not even calling it a ruck.
5. The joke that is the RL scrum. It's an embarrassment.
Maybe it wasn't better in the past and I'm just old now, but I enjoyed it more in the past for sure. I think it probably peaked with the Saints / Bradford / Leeds sides in the early part of this century.'"
It was way more entertaining in the past, end of.
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| This won't be a popular view, but the reason why the game itself is the way it is now is because it's too professional. In the past the players weren't anywhere near the physical level that they are now, so they had to rely on actual rugby skill to play the game.
Now they're all machines and brute force completely dominates. I have no idea what the answer to that is though. It does mean I don't worry too much when people talk about fears of the game ending up part time though. Yes, if that happens obviously the better players will go to union or Australia ASAP, but they can't all go there. Warrington will still exist, and players who just want to play will continue to play and the game might not be as robotic as it is now.
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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"
I think, in reality, it just has limited appeal with the limited number of people who like "rugby" preferring Union which has an enviable international game, national league, and domestic following.
*https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/how-the-challenge-cup-viewing-figures-compare-to-2023-and-the-rugby-union-final-92997/'"
I have to agree with you. I have stood in many Rugby Union Clubhouses telling people that I am a Rugby League man, it's a miles better game & it is in the blood. They look at me and shake their heads & question the strange wriggling that tackled players do to stand up & play the ball and the tiny crowds. I love RL but I have little optimism that our game is going to suddenly catch on no matter what is done.
RU, mind you, has improved considerably over the last few years. It used to be all kick to touch but not anymore. They also have loads more money.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"I have to agree with you. I have stood in many Rugby Union Clubhouses telling people that I am a Rugby League man, it's a miles better game & it is in the blood. They look at me and shake their heads & question the strange wriggling that tackled players do to stand up & play the ball and the tiny crowds. I love RL but I have little optimism that our game is going to suddenly catch on no matter what is done.
RU, mind you, has improved considerably over the last few years. It used to be all kick to touch but not anymore. They also have loads more money.'"
I wouldn’t say it’s massively improved, I mean look at the big name clubs that have gone. All well and good that Union as more money in the sport than we do but they are for sure better at mismanaging it than League.
The points Wires 71 makes is more the problem the main one being the international game. Now it’s not dominated by the All Blacks and Australia and other nations getting better at it it draws more attention and hence better crowds. I’m not sure our sport will tap into that in my lifetime but we need to get better as a sport internationally. Even the NFL which is massive in USA is getting out in the world more and more. If eventually a team is based in the UK this is just going to take more people away.
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| The previous point about RU no longer being kick and clap is an accurate one. In the last round of fixtures before their international break, every game had either 7 or 8 tries in it, with points from kicks making up far less of the totals than you would expect. RU have used a bonus point system well to encourage more fluent rugby.
Whilst it might not be everyone's cup of tea, saying that RU is a dull game to watch is outdated.
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| I'm probably a bad egg but I actually like it and it has indeed improved, the internationals are a proper day out and there's less snobbery about since the likes of Inverdale and Gusscott had their well publicised views aired. Added to this there have been plenty of RL guys coaching at high level in various capacities, Phil Larder, Jon Clark, Kevin Sinfield and of course Andy Farrell....
Whilst I like RU, it doesn't diminish my passion for RL and I still have that innate mistrust of the establishment and understanding that we aren't on a level playing field. However, I think these days, our disadvantage, well certainly the continuation of it, is as much about us as it is them IMO
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"I'm probably a bad egg but I actually like it and it has indeed improved, the internationals are a proper day out and there's less snobbery about since the likes of Inverdale and Gusscott had their well publicised views aired. Added to this there have been plenty of RL guys coaching at high level in various capacities, Phil Larder, Jon Clark, Kevin Sinfield and of course Andy Farrell....
Whilst I like RU, it doesn't diminish my passion for RL and I still have that innate mistrust of the establishment and understanding that we aren't on a level playing field. However, I think these days, our disadvantage, well certainly the continuation of it, is as much about us as it is them IMO'"
Wow not like you to make sense 
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| It does make me smile a bit when RU is portrayed as a "posh" sport cos they obviously haven't been to some places I've been. RL will always have a problem when it's crowds are so low. Sky threw money at us in the early days but I'm afraid they have other options now.
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| Quote Smiffy27="Smiffy27"It does make me smile a bit when RU is portrayed as a "posh" sport cos they obviously haven't been to some places I've been. RL will always have a problem when it's crowds are so low. Sky threw money at us in the early days but I'm afraid they have other options now.'"
Is this not why IMG have been brought in, to help grow and make it more appealing. It’s going to take a long time for sure it’s not an over night thing. The continued bleating by clubs over grades etc they just need to get on and work on the improvements required and let IMG get on with other stuff.
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"So Wakey back in SL, then.
I bear them no animosity as a club, but I REALLY hope we put 80 past them on both games, because of that Yorkshire winker, who nearly got us relegated, and decimated our playing roster, as some of them were "bad apples". Irony lost on him, then.'"
Got a funny feeling that he will be hoping for 2 similar score lines in our favour..
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