He lost the ball vs Catalans, they broke away, and he didn't bother chasing back. He was the last player back in the defensive line. He just threw his toys out of the pram and couldn't be bothered.

im with you on this one.

The guy is a born winner. The very least we should be doing is giving him a chance and all getting behind him.

People keep saying 'born winner' but what did he, or his teams win across his career?

that's a pretty narrow minded view when looking at a RL player to be honest.

Its the will to win and the drive to be the best.

It's not a medal count... he went to the NRL as a kid, won plenty of accolades... more than any other British player.

he hasn't won the challenge cup though... i will give you that one.. or the world cup... actually yea your right...what a loser

That's all well and good personally for him, but it clearly didn't translate all that well outside of his own performances. Wise crack all you want, but if he's as much as born winner and leader of men as people say, it simply hasn't translated through the teams he has played for nor coached overall. He hardly led a dynasty at Souths did he? And nobody as yet has an answer to that. If he couldn't get his teammates to win consistently then I can't see it changing as a coach.

Dear me fella - what have you got against him - did he p!ss on your chips or something?

Souths won the 2014 premiership and he was Clive Churchill medallist in the final - that's 'leader of men' stuff for me. I've watched plenty of games where he's pulled out the big hits to fire his team up when they seemed flat.

As for coaching - he's never been head coach so it's a bit of a stretch to hold that against him.

All ths stuff I'm hearing that he's doing behind the scenes - [ibefore he even takes over[/i - is exactly what I want to hear.

Quite. And if that was all he'd done in his career, it'd be more than 99.99% of all rugby league players have done.

I'm not a big fan of this appointment but you can't knock Burgess's playing record or say that he isn't a winner. Right up there with Adrian Morley as an English player who went to Australia and established himself as one of the most dominant forwards in their game.

I think it will change the perspective of Aussie players wanting to play for Warrington just because of his standing over there. He is somebody they will all view with huge respect. It will be easier for us to attract certain players if Sam Burgess is calling them up. Also I think there's less risk of Aussie players at the club forming cliques and downing tools because they don't like or respect the coach or if they have an idea in the back of their minds that Warrington and England is a bit beneath them.

So there are positives. However, I wouldn't go overboard about this as we hear it often, especially in football. Frank Lampard, Patrick Vieira, Steven Gerrard they haven't exactly been fantastic in the Premier League. Neither was Graeme Souness who was the ultimate 'born winner'. Being a great player isn't the same as being a great coach.

So who do you want as our head coach..don't say wane cos he will never ever come here...

If he's able to recruit an able assistant who can fill in the gaps, ie attacking tactics etc etc, I think this could work out really well. I think the biggest problem we've had is that the incoming player signings have not respected the club enough and been attracted mainly by money - this lack of respect has manifested into lack of effort and aspiration. This changes overnight when Sam arrives and hopefully our players will at least be playing for the badge, a major element in the success of an SL side. The examples of failures by high profile footballers is a good point though, so I do respect your concerns on this.

With a broken cheekbone for 79 minutes. That says something about his guts and determination.

Time will tell.