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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Allan is still a Wire though.'"
If he is, it will be because of the fans, not the club hierarchy at the time.
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| Although never a massive fan, Danny Nutley ended up getting in the Super League Dream Team and playing Origin after he left us. I was just going through the Heritage numbers list and there are plenty of examples of players getting worse after joining us, Charnley for example.
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International Star | 4719 | Warrington Wolves |
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"Although never a massive fan, Danny Nutley ended up getting in the Super League Dream Team and playing Origin after he left us. I was just going through the Heritage numbers list and there are plenty of examples of players getting worse after joining us, Charnley for example.'"
I think you are being unduly harsh on Charnley, he was great for us when he first arrived. Something happened to him and/or our tactics changed significantly and that has resulted in his effectiveness falling off a cliff. There are many examples of players who stunk the place out from day 1, Charnley is not one of those.
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| Quote davids="davids"Brian Johnson was utterly dismissive towards Bateman when he arrived, if you read Bateman's autobiography. Makes you wonder if Johnson ever rated or wanted him.
There is a bizarre story of where Bateman came to talk to Johnno, who was surrounded by fans who he was signing autographs for, and he just handed Bateman a piece of paper and said "here's the offer, take it or leave it". Bateman took it and then regretted it soon after.
Allan Bateman was my favourite player growing up, it's bizarre how underrated and shoddily treated he was.'"
Always enjoyed watching “Batman” and had the impression he would have tackled a Sherman tank (and stop it) if it was in opposition colours.
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"I think you are being unduly harsh on Charnley, he was great for us when he first arrived. Something happened to him and/or our tactics changed significantly and that has resulted in his effectiveness falling off a cliff. There are many examples of players who stunk the place out from day 1, Charnley is not one of those.'"
A lot of players stunk the place out from day one because they were garbage to begin with, Matt Sturm for example. Charnley was a very good winger who has gradually got worse at Wire
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"A lot of players stunk the place out from day one because they were garbage to begin with, Matt Sturm for example. Charnley was a very good winger who has gradually got worse at Wire'"
define getting worse
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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"define getting worse'"
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"A lot of players stunk the place out from day one because they were garbage to begin with, Matt Sturm for example. Charnley was a very good winger who has gradually got worse at Wire'"
You do realise that a decline in performance is inevitable?
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| Quote Captain Hook="Captain Hook"You do realise that a decline in performance is inevitable?'"
Of course it's inevitable, but Charnley is only 29. Saying that Forster started to decline at an earlier age and still managed to get a 2nd testimonial.
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Player Coach | 8049 | No Team Selected |
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"Of course it's inevitable, but Charnley is only 29. Saying that Forster started to decline at an earlier age and still managed to get a 2nd testimonial.'"
Probably down to knee reconstruction (iirc) in the late 80's, which blunted his pace. Possibly, we could've given him a run in the second row. One of the game's biggest wingers, and regularly "took the ball up", in a set of 6, and never shirked work. Imagine his effectiveness, running into a well timed pass from his scrum half.
His resulting 2nd testimonial was down to the club's long standing problem of lack of ruthlessness.
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| Quote Wiremansam="Wiremansam"Of course it's inevitable, but Charnley is only 29. Saying that Forster started to decline at an earlier age and still managed to get a 2nd testimonial.'"
Define decline
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