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Cannot see Wigan keeping him. Unless he has already moved over here, a driving ban is certain and his commute just got a lot more difficult.less than 3 weeks until his current ban ends. What an absolute Richard head.

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Quote: ninearches "Perhaps the signing of Zak & the Tomkins shenanigans are what has prompted Wane to move on.'"

It was well documented on other Wigan forums that this was the reason why Wane left Wigan.

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’m not daft enough to suggest we’re doing anything out of the goodness of our hearts but honestly the current owner isn’t in the league of Dave Whelan when it comes to be a total ball bag. It’s pointless bringing the Mike Greg situation in to any debate about Wigan’s morals because that was down to people not the club and they’re not involved anymore. I doubt they would’ve looked after Macauley Davies the way the current regime are trying to do for example.'"


OK, we could possibly accept your explanation with regards club ownership.

However, the fans support goes on seamlessly as owners come and go.

Did you attend the Mike Gregory Charity game?

I don`t recall seeing ANY Cherry and White colours at that match.

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Quote: Builth Wells Wire "Been done for Drink driving - no insurance - no MOT - owning a Fiesta - failing a drugs test - making homophobic comments - alleged assault of a 22-year-old student - Not bad for a 26-year-old. When does the book come out?'"

He'll let you know, when he's finished colouring it in

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Quote: rubber duckie "I think the close knit at Wigan under Wane has been what held Bateman in.
I think Wane would have sorted out Zac too.'"


I agree with you here duckie and I think Wane brought a really healthy culture to Wigan which is also why they have done so well bringing young lads through and also they are so effective as a team.

Back in 2003 when Mike Gregory became their coach, I remember him talking a few times about the culture he wanted to create there, hard work, honesty, integrity, no egos. At the time it was quite different because Wigan for 5 years since their last Grand Final win, had had a series of big name signings, some from the NRL, some British, that were a bit hit and miss, and they were a team that had underachieved compared to the quality of players. But they had a lot of young players coming through at this time and a chance to rebuild a culture with a receptive and talented group of young players. Sadly Mike Gregory's tragic illness cut that idea short, and then Millward came in and they got chaos. A few years later I ended up chatting to one of those young Wigan players who had come through under Gregory who basically said when Mike was there we were building a really positive culture, then in comes Basil and everything went wrong.

Whilst Michael McGuire taught them how to win again, I think Wane brought in the kind of culture that Mike Gregory had been hoping for, and it has been a great basis to build success. They have been able to achieve more than the sum of their parts on paper and maintain consistent success and assimilate new players in seamlessly, like Leeds did where they had a similar culture for so long.

Signing Hardaker threatens that because he's someone they will always be fearing will let the dressing room down. He's a big name with a chequered past when the rest of them are non-celebs who just get on with it.

Anyway they have Edwards coming in a year, who will certainly maintain that culture, in fact he will probably combine the best of the Wane approach with an extra unbending will to win, and will have the authority to sort out any duckhead behaviour in an instant. I can see Wigan being the benchmark team in the years ahead.

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I think it's set up for Edwards. It's Lam that'll be the fall guy through a period of transition.

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