It's time to be brutally honest.

We are a very very poor side. Let's not make excuses and blame injuries / suspensions.

1. On paper, the side tonight would be an average championship team. At best.We don't have enough quality....end of.
2. If anyone tells me again that Ratchford should play full back......just watch the game over again tonight......clueless.
3. It's time we moved players on.....no room for sentiment...lets get them gone.
4. IMO....Asotasi,Atkins,Monoghan,Myler(Catalans) all need to go ASAP.
5. Ask yourself which of our current players would get in Leeds/Saints side and that shows how weak we are (prob Hill, Clark and Westwood)
6. We've done well since Agar came in lol

Anyone expecting a Wire win on Friday is well, deluded. What we should have expected is a performance from returning players and players on the fringes who have been drafted in to cover injuries. I would have expected a late 20's or early 30's score but not that. Sandows first game couldn't have been any tougher.

Playing with one prop and a beefed up second rower with young lad and a waste of oxygen off the bench is not what a big club or a successful club should be fielding. Its time for the club and TS to get it sorted. Good luck on Thursday, but it could signal the end of our season.

One further point, I am sick of hearing opposing fans singing the W**ky W**anky Warrington song and I hold TS and his team responsible for that.

They've been singing that for a very long time. Nothing to do with this crop of players.

I think we ought to win v Cas because we have to and because we will be back at strength and we are a stronger team, that said, we also was against KR and that's why I'm finding it hard to let go.

It is do or die at Cas, loose there and a Hudds win, it's every minute takes the pea. All dead rubbers.

We all know that the squad has been in gradual decline for years now... This season has been dead in the water since the lethargic showing against HKR... But the writing has been on the wall all season. gnashing our teeth after every defeat like this makes no difference.

We all know this squad isnt good enough.... we know it, Smith knows it, Moran knows it... The players know it.

I was very much in the 'Smith out' camp for most of the season... And while i have one foot still firmly in it, i think we will see him given a chance next season with this new batch of players that are being recruited.

If we dont recruit well in the forwards and look like a disjointed outfit again 6/8 games into next season then its time to part ways.

my opinion is that his best time at this club has been and gone.... He couldn't win the GF with that side in 2011, which was his best team i think.

Sometimes a coach just comes to his end of his time with a club.... Its not reflection of the coaches abilities.. it just happens. Things become stale on both sides and results suffer... It then benefits both parties to go their separate ways.

I would love him to turn it around next season and get us back at the top.. I wont be holding my breath though.

Clear out now any player leaving at the end of the season. Play all the youngsters get them more experience ready for next year.
Play Ratch with Sandow see what happens, no performance this season now can be as bad as what we witnessed tonight.

I can't give you an argument there Shaz