can we start doing at home games but with out turning are backs in the south stand, i went to watch liverpool v utd afew years ago and we was kept in the ground and all we kept doing was were gona bounce in a minute etc, its obviouse we are on the up but lets make hj a fortress and very loud i rember back at the zoo when we were feared

I guess I'm in the minority then because I label fans as being bellends when they actually act like bellends, not when they are simply trying to drum up a bit of activity within their own fan base and aren't bothering other teams' fans with whatever they're doing. I wasn't even aware of the 'Ultras' thing until it was pointed out in this thread.

The bell end aspect is the Ultra part. Everyone can be supporters and brighten things up, but Wigan have to go the extra yard. I remember the big banner we used to pass across the south, (not been this year so can't say if it's still there) which brightened things up and people seemed to like, but we never named ourselves the Ultras. Maybe it's just me, but I see the flag thing as pro-active and positive, but I see the Ultras thing as egotistical and something that should be mocked.

Each to their own then.

Yeah the big flag thing ... I could be wrong but I think that got it's debut at the first magic weekend in Cardiff. Quite liked it back then. I've been enjoying it less and less though as it gets smellier and smellier - the last time I remember it going overhead it absolutely reeked