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Quote: Saddened! "The thing with Hock is Maguire. His whole personna as a coach seems to be that of a strict disciplinarian. Players not trying or out of form being dropped irrespective of name or reputation, players carrying too much weight being flogged in training until they are washboard thin, players misbehaving being fined and dropped etc. Then he would let someone like Hock back into the squad? It doesn't make sense to me.

I can't see why anyone else would pick him up either. A decent player but one overhyped by Ed & Steve for years and one who never really ever matured into the player people speculated he would. Also there is the tendancy for people who do things recreationally to do so again eventually.'"




Are you for real mate ? Your trying to tell me Cas or Wakey would not sign Hock if they had the chance too ? of course theywould mate if he signed for Warrington do you thknk he would get a game yes he would it would make us a lot stronger in an area we are decent in but with 1 or 2 injuries could be in real trouble, Hock wont sign for Wire but is he good enough to play for us ?? In my opinion yes !!

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As alluded to.
Had Hock been making a din at bbq where he allegedly took the coke and the police come round and was caught in possession he would in all probability been given a slap on the wrists ,a small fine (just check your local papers in the in court section) and no ban.

It doesn't make sense does it?

I'm not defending Hock by the way, he got what he deserved, but when he's completed his ban than he should be free to play, and not given a lifetime ban as some have asked for.

However, if he should re-offend then it's got to be the end for him.

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I think alot of people are forgetting that when he returns he won't be on alot of money so for the wages he will be getting wigan can't turn him down if he wants to come back. As for taking coke and performance enhancing drugs I think we should promote the system like they have in the wwe wrestling a wellness policy were as 3 strikes and your out. I for one can't wait to see gaz in a wigan shirt as he on is day is one of the best players in the world

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Quote: bestie1983 "I think we should promote the system like they have in the wwe wrestling'"


no drugs in wrestling.... that's for sure.... absolutely no steroid abuse whatsoever...

if ever there was a drug policy system we should be looking to promote, its wrestling.

Juiced up monsters smashing head first into each other would certainly add a bit of spice to games.

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He's had a narrow escape in the past seen his vehicle getting loaded onto a truck myself thought he would have learned his lesson from that

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I think a 2 year ban for recreational drugs has no logic behind it. If the idea is that its a criminal offence well let the law deal with it. Thats what they do with players like Briers, Morley and Gleeson who have got done for drink driving. The RFL did not get involved there and ban those players?

The idea is that we need to send a message to youngsters that rugby league has no time for recreational drugs. Fine, does rugby league have time for drink drivers? Why not ban them? What about players who go out and get completely wasted? Is that a good image for rugby league? 2 year bans for players who get caught bladdered?

2 year bans or even life bans, for taking performance enhancing drugs I agree with, but the way I would have dealt with it is said if a drugs test has shown Gareth Hock took coke, the RFL should have shopped him in to the legal authorities and said look we've got proof he's taken an illegal drug, and left it at that. If he has committed a crime then the courts can deal with him, and place whatever sanction they want to, it's not for rugby league to start being judge and jury.

Actually instead of all this talk about bankers bonuses, if they really wanted to put the cat amongst the pigeons they should say there's drug testing for anyone in the City and if you test positive for coke, the FSA gives you a 2 year ban.....there would be some pretty empty trading floors.'"



True, but what came out at the time was that this could possibly be used as a masking agent, or as a by product of a masking agent to cover up something else. Possibly something performance enhancing.

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