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How far would you like to video ref to be able to go back? Because go back far enough and he would have seen the three knock ons from the kick off in the build up to one of the Warrington tries.

Personally, I've never been a fan of the video ref. I think it creates a bias for the teams that are favoured by sky, it adds 15 minutes of standing about like a lemon for the spectators to every game and as threads like this highlight, they don't always get it right with a video replay. I'd much rather the on pitch officials just make a decision there and then.

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Two further questions for the ref - and before anybody jumps on me, Wire only had themselves to blame for last nights defeat.

1) when Wilkins bawled at Alibert after being penalised for holding down, he was asked to go to the ref for a telling off. Wilkins ignored him and Wellens stood in for him. Why did Alibert not insist on speaking to the player, and why did he not move the penalty forward by ten yards?

2) As half time approached, and Riley kicked the ball forward, he was tackled by two Saints players. Alibert was going to let play go on until the touch judge intervened and a penalty was awarded.
Now, at a home game this season, Riley was sin binned in the first minute for holding down after an opposition break. Why was one or both players not sin binned for the professional foul?

As I said, I am not blaming those decisions for the loss, but I am getting extremely frustrated at the inconsistencies of referees from game to game, and within games.
Am I the only one?

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Quote: Richeastender "Two further questions for the ref - and before anybody jumps on me, Wire only had themselves to blame for last nights defeat.

1) when Wilkins bawled at Alibert after being penalised for holding down, he was asked to go to the ref for a telling off. Wilkins ignored him and Wellens stood in for him. Why did Alibert not insist on speaking to the player, and why did he not move the penalty forward by ten yards?

2) As half time approached, and Riley kicked the ball forward, he was tackled by two Saints players. Alibert was going to let play go on until the touch judge intervened and a penalty was awarded.
Now, at a home game this season, Riley was sin binned in the first minute for holding down after an opposition break. Why was one or both players not sin binned for the professional foul?

As I said, I am not blaming those decisions for the loss, but I am getting extremely frustrated at the inconsistencies of referees from game to game, and within games.
Am I the only one?'"


There will be many opinions as to your first two points ranging from "got it bang on" to "the guys a muppet and has no bottle". What I would say is I think that every sane fan posting on this or any forum HATES inconsistent referring. Differences in opinion from one ref to another is inevitable (they are of course contray to many peoples opinion ..human) but god knows how a ref can be so inconsistent about his own decisions within a single game and often within a single 15 minute spell!

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Quote: NCB "Well looking at the replay Alibert was indeed 11 back from the play, with pretty much all of the Saints players at least one foot in front of him (may I remind you that both feet must be behind the ref.) Now here is the debate from earlier - is it the pitch 10 or the refs 10 or 11 but slightly in front. Too confusing.

Alibert's
Cummings has confirmed before that the whole ref's standing 12m back and allowing players in front of him in nonsense that gets repeated time and again. The ref is meant to stand 10m back, and he marks the offside.

Can't find the quote, unfortunately.

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Quote: Richeastender "Two further questions for the ref - and before anybody jumps on me, Wire only had themselves to blame for last nights defeat.

1) when Wilkins bawled at Alibert after being penalised for holding down, he was asked to go to the ref for a telling off. Wilkins ignored him and Wellens stood in for him. Why did Alibert not insist on speaking to the player, and why did he not move the penalty forward by ten yards? '"


It was James Graham that bawled at Alibert

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He should be spoken to by the RFL for that on 47 minutes on live SKY you could cleary hear him shout to Alibert, "Move just F***in move".

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