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Doc has dismissed rumours that Rangi Chase is leaving and he has again reaffirmed his commitment to the club.

Does anyone have any suspicions the club could possibly be a victim of propaganda with the middle 8's looming? With social media these days it would be quite easy for people to start damaging rumours that gather momentum wouldn't it?

Let's face it there will be agenda's with so much on the line.

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Todd Snape Wilkinson Koukash The Faithful!:



Quote: Michigan red "It could turn into a real Duel, but The first cut won't hurt at all.'"


I see what you've done there........... eusa_clap.gif

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Salford Red Devils RLFC. [quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]:



Quote: theredshed "Doc has dismissed rumours that Rangi Chase is leaving and he has again reaffirmed his commitment to the club.

Does anyone have any suspicions the club could possibly be a victim of propaganda with the middle 8's looming? With social media these days it would be quite easy for people to start damaging rumours that gather momentum wouldn't it?

Let's face it there will be agenda's with so much on the line.'"


I have heard it all now. Was it these propaganda culprits who left a fully fit Rangi out of the team at Leeds on Friday then, despite him showing everyone else that he was clearly fit and raring to go in the warm-up? Marwan hasn’t told the truth about much since he has been here and I don’t expect him to start doing so now.

Remember when he said Hock wouldn’t play against us in the cup? Lie. Remember when he said he would take legal action against Hock and Leigh if he did play? Lie. Remember when he accepted Locke’s resignation but said he would go legal to recover transfer fee? Lie. Remember when he said Harris' job was safe? Lie. Remember when he said Theo had been offered a contract extension in June but turned it down? Lie.

Unfortunately, I take whatever he says these days with a massive pinch of salt.

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I have heard it all now. Was it these propaganda culprits who left a fully fit Rangi out of the team at Leeds on Friday then, despite him showing everyone else that he was clearly fit and raring to go in the warm-up? .'"]

Are you suggesting Chase was omitted on Friday on Marwan`s say so?

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With Koucash,its everybody is wrong but him.

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The agents of these players have a lot to answer for, I know they are supposed to look after their clients but they pray on clubs like Salford because they know we are desperate. The bigger clubs tell the agents what to do.

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Quote: Redsince58 "The agents of these players have a lot to answer for, I know they are supposed to look after their clients but they pray on clubs like Salford because they know we are desperate. The bigger clubs tell the agents what to do.'"

Correct,it's everybody else's fault.

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Hey relax people it was only a question and not necessarily an opinion. I just find it so hard to comprehend how much negative news there has been over the past few months, it's relentless and demoralising. It really is astonishing and there has to be some $hit stirring going on as well surely? Self destruction, imploding? We are making the perennial circus at Newcastle United look like a dream team to support! icon_wink.gif Lots of similarities, Marwan's our Mike Ashley, Ian Watson could be local caretaker boss John Carver, Theo could be little Yohan Cabaye wanting a move and Morley or Hansen could be local hero Alan Shearer? icon_smile.gif

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Unfortunately chaps as I have mentioned on your forum previously you may have to endure the painful death of your club at the hands of its saviour sooner than first anticipated.

JGR is on the money with his posts, Fages will leave, Chase will leave, Paterson will be joined at Leigh with Hansen and most of the players agents are touting their players around the clubs.

Sheens will definitely be going home after the 8's.

Im hearing there is an outside chance the club may not last the duration of the season and the RFL are fully aware and may look to help players find clubs by offering salary cap dispensation for those players.

Looks like another Celtic Crusaders episode.

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Didn't Koukash say at the press conference less than a month ago that all staff have always been paid on time? And on some occasions paid early. Are you saying this was a lie? It's not that I'm not wanting to believe it or that I'm defending anyone, but it just seems odd to call a press conference and make a public statement like this, if it wasn't true and people had conclusive evidence to prove otherwise?

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I don't beleive what anyone says anymore, either side. All I know is we have a massive game on Sunday and we need to turn up and win.
Whatever else is going on, am sure we'll find out soon enough. I'm bored of speculating.

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Quote: theredshed "Didn't Koukash say at the press conference less than a month ago that all staff have always been paid on time? And on some occasions paid early. Are you saying this was a lie? It's not that I'm not wanting to believe it or that I'm defending anyone, but it just seems odd to call a press conference and make a public statement like this, if it wasn't true and people had conclusive evidence to prove otherwise?'"


They might have been paid, but whether or not it was the correct amount is another story. I know for a fact that players have had issues over the last 12 months with getting paid the correct amount, every month there is a different issue.

This is one of the main reasons why players want out. Why put up with the continual stress of not knowing how much you're going to get paid at the end of the month, when there are plenty of clubs out there who would pay you properly?

The RFL have been made aware of all of this too.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "They might have been paid, but whether or not it was the correct amount is another story. I know for a fact that players have had issues over the last 12 months with getting paid the correct amount, every month there is a different issue.

This is one of the main reasons why players want out. Why put up with the continual stress of not knowing how much you're going to get paid at the end of the month, when there are plenty of clubs out there who would pay you properly?

The RFL have been made aware of all of this too.'"


When the Locke thing broke the lawyer Richard Cramer stated that he had represented 20 Salford employees in the last 30 months ! A number that has never been challenged. It is inconceivable that a lawyer of Cramer's standing would get these details wrong.

20 people seeking legal advice is a staggering number.

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THen again, some of those 30 could be down to the issues around that Christmas when Wilkinson left and the Doctor arrived. I would hazard that many players and staff took legal advice once they found themselves out of the club.
That's not to say that things are rosy. If there are rumours being spread by outside agencies, the reply would be simple. Owner and players say the comments are rubbish. The way they were denied at the press "conference" and the silence from the ranks suggest otherwise. As it is, we are not getting confident messages. So it is natural to look into the smoke to find the fire.

I'm neither pro or against the Doctor. I just want a club to support.

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