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Absolutely diabolical tonight. Embarrassing. To top it off I've only just got back after being stuck on the M60.

After all the money spent on advertising and promoting the club we have thrown it away tonight.

The result is bad enough but the lack of effort was shameful. Even in the days of the Willows when we were getting 40+ points put past us every Friday night there was still more heart and passion than that.

Fitness was a joke. We looked exhausted and out of breath after 20 minutes and Scott Taylor looked like his pre-season had been spent in McDonalds. Incredibly disappointing after the club talked us up having an apparently good pre-season.


So does anyone think Harris is the long term answer still? I must admit I wasn't happy we signed him but he did show glimpses of improvement but tonight was same old just like Wakefield and Wigan away games were blowouts under him at the end of last year. For me, he's got to go. The players we have should be top 4 minimum but it looked tonight as if all our players had gotten worse and they've never practiced defending in their lives.

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So who do you think should replace him as I imagine he would not walk without his contract being paid up.

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Should have stuck with Noble for a few seasons and let him build the team over that time like he did at Wigan, then you could have replaced him when he'd gone as far as he could with a decent up and coming young aussie coach hungry to make a name for himself, success isn't bought overnight it's earned over a period of time, will be a shame if MK does one

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That team is much better than that performance (Hock aside who's just a waste of space) Harris has never proven anything as a coach and if he cant get that team of quality players to perform he needs to leave

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Quote: Saint Simon "That team is much better than that performance (Hock aside who's just a waste of space) Harris has never proven anything as a coach and if he cant get that team of quality players to perform he needs to leave'"


First time i've started to doubt Harris to be honest. Hard working coach but what are doing in training. The attack looks so disjointed even against Warrington it was poor. Players just did not seem up for it. No wonder we have poor crowds!

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That man Rowley at Leigh would be a good replacement.

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Quote: MarioRugby "Absolutely diabolical tonight. Embarrassing. To top it off I've only just got back after being stuck on the M60.

After all the money spent on advertising and promoting the club we have thrown it away tonight.

The result is bad enough but the lack of effort was shameful. Even in the days of the Willows when we were getting 40+ points put past us every Friday night there was still more heart and passion than that.

Fitness was a joke. We looked exhausted and out of breath after 20 minutes and Scott Taylor looked like his pre-season had been spent in McDonalds. Incredibly disappointing after the club talked us up having an apparently good pre-season.


So does anyone think Harris is the long term answer still? I must admit I wasn't happy we signed him but he did show glimpses of improvement but tonight was same old just like Wakefield and Wigan away games were blowouts under him at the end of last year. For me, he's got to go. The players we have should be top 4 minimum but it looked tonight as if all our players had gotten worse and they've never practiced defending in their lives.'"


Stick to your Wigan Faithful twitter account mate.

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I honestly dont think Harris will see the season out as coach and i thought that prior to last night. I expected to lose last night and at Warrington but thought we might be competetive which we were at Wire but not last night. Something about last nights result has really hurt. Ive seen plenty of those games over 30 years but the manner of defeat was very hard to take. Dr K has some big decisions to make over the next few games and only wins will do for Harris to keep his job. all in all not the start to a season we needed.

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I've thought for a long time we'd end up with Tim Sheens as our coach, the Aussies only play one game this year so you'd think it the perfect time too approach him.

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Let’s take how Salford are playing out of it for a moment.

Before the season started, there was a good chance that we were going to lose three out of our first four matches, whether they were close games or not. However, Harris cannot afford to go 0–4. Looking at the par points total after 23 matches for 8th position, Salford would likely need to win half ±1 of their remaining games.

But nobody wants to finish 8th. Sure you secure a place in next year’s Super League, but you’re likely to be on the wrong end of results for the remainder of the season. Basically, if you’re out of the cup – season over.

So you need to be looking at 6th. Looking at par again, a 0–4 start to the year possibly means Salford need to go 12–7, 13–6 for the remainder of the fixtures. That is a tough ask for any club outside the top two or three.

So Harris will be doing well to survive if Salford don’t get a win in the next two matches.

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Good summary of the position - but its a position that faces any coach not just Harris!!

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Quote: BartonFlyer "Good summary of the position - but its a position that faces any coach not just Harris!!'"


True. Although not many with a club that has spent up to the cap. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Saint Simon "That team is much better than that performance (Hock aside who's just a waste of space) Harris has never proven anything as a coach and if he cant get that team of quality players to perform he needs to leave'"


If he'd had been any good, surely Wigan would have tried to keep him.

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Fair point. There was a diplomatic response from Wane when Harris announced he was leaving. If Wane is being diplomatic you can assume he is not too upset.

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