... what do you think would be a measure of achievement?

Last year we achieved 20 points, an improvement on our 2010 tally of 16. We currently have 15 points with, as stated, 8 games to go. Of these games we have a very good chance (if we completely commit that is) of beating Wakefield and Widnes at home, and London away.

So, what do you think?

Yeah, i think thats the best we can hope for this season. The play offs are now out of our reach. We might sneak a win against Huddersfield at home as well, but it will be too little too late. Still an improvement on last season, but I can't help feeling it should have been a whole lot more with the wins we should have picked up, but haven't!

I'll second that.

Breaking our points tally for last season would be good, heading in the right direction at least. I'll still be disappointed at some of our missed chances this season though - losing to Castleford twice being the worst probably.

Here's one for you: if Salford do manage 21 points this season, 3 more victories, then Phil Veivers's win/loss record in Super League will be better than any other Salford coach at the same amount of game's coached in their respective tenures.

For me this season isn't about wins or points.

4 years of watching a poorly coached team that looked like they struggled to find the field let alone the try line, it was more about the progress.

I can see what impact Long and Veivers have had on this team, and whilst they are still frustrating to watch, maybe it is a sign of how far we have come that we get annoyed in games such as Hull KR/Bradford.

I see this progress as a long term issue and hopefully next year will see us turn narrow losses to wins.

This season has been awful but mainly for off field issues. Now we have the spector of Administration. What a first season in the new stadium

Winning the home games is imperative.
We are quite fortunate to be playing KR as they have recently suffered injuries - but stifling the skills of Dobson and Green with a new half-back formation will be a real test.
We are quite fortunate to be playing FC 6 days after they will have a fierce derby with KR.
The 3 games this month will probably decide our play-off hopes.
We play Wigan away 8 days before the Challenge Cup final.Will they be at Wembley or will it be Leeds ?
If it is Leeds they may over-celebrate before we play them and as winning the CC is the only trophy the old-stagers haven't won then I don't expect them to be fully focussed having just won the one elusive trophy.
I do worry about which of our squad may be leaving but I expect,and hope,we sail past 20 points and gain a place in the play-offs.
I think it is the least the coaching staff deserve.

Here are the next games and here are my predictions.

08/07/12 A Hull Kingston Rovers = 50/50
20/07/12 H Widnes Vikings = Win
29/07/12 A Hull FC = loss
04/08/12 A London Broncos = Win
10/08/12 H Huddersfield Giants = 50/50
17/08/12 A Wigan Warriors = loss
31/08/12 A Leeds Rhinos = loss
07/09/12 H Wakefield Wildcats = Win

Ever the optimist, add these to the games we should have won ….
CAS Away and Home
KR Home
Bradford Home
Wakefield Away

Could of potentially been on 25 points at this point and if we would of won the remaining games we would be on 31 points (excluding the 50/50).
However I do believe it all comes down to Sunday, if we don’t win at KR I don’t see much hope of us making the play offs.

Not that we have much hope now.