OK I'm expecting to be flakked about this: there are several comments that the substitutions are now less: down to 8. I thought that was next year in RL albeit this year in NRL.

Often wrong, reasons to be humble.

''Wait until the pitches firm up'' Where have I heard that before. Same old cliches, same old excuses.

How ridiculous Early Bath, it's you that needs to get a grip. The game on Thursday will be another walk over, absolutely at the end of my tether with it all and I know I am not the only one. I can see many fans turning their back on it after year upon year of misery and shambolic running of our club. I will not go on Thursday why should I? The fact our match day price is probably the highest in the league is also a disgrace, how they expect to attract anyone to a game is beyond me.

Might as well take the money you'll waste on getting in and the pish water they masquarade off as alcohol that you que up 20 minutes for and burn it, not throwing my money away any more unless improvements are made on and off the field.

Jeez a lot of doom and gloom on here we've played 1 game against team that is better then us simple as that i expect Hull to comfortably make the top 6. For me the 8th spot is open for Cas, Widnes, Wakey, Us & KR lets give this team 6 games before judging it

Ave it your spot on with your team selection pal.

What sort of message would it send out to the rest of the team if our player of the season last year Niall Evalds doesn't get started at full back after one of the new signings in Gareth O'Brian had an absolute stinker against Hull FC. I don't want to be to harsh on O'Brian because I'm very happy we signed him and he will be a useful player for us in the future but you can't expect to get picked again after making 3+ handling errors at full back. Niall has one of the safest pairs of hands in SL and we are going to need them against a quality Luke Walsh kicking game on Thursday night.

To add to that, I feel the only reason we are playing O'Brian at full back is because of his passing game and that our game plan for this year is to get the ball out wide more. Surely we can get Robert Lui to teach Niall Evalds to become a world class passer of the ball.

yes we tired, but that was because we were down 2 interchanges and had to leave frank on when realistically we would have took him off! we still have players like ellis to come back into our squad too, plus other forwards who could step in, hadley, fash, downs

I am glad they won't, I have thrown away more more money than I care to imagine following this club especially when my job allowed me to travel home and away I didn't miss a game for five seasons but yeah the club don't need to keep the long suffering fans on board one bit.

Trust me, you can say what you wish on here but friends of mine who have been going 40 years have had enough so it's not just me but you keep your blinkers on and defend this shambles of a club.

I will probably be there this season because I am a fool but I certainly won't be throwing my money away on thursday, I hope the lads win of course I do but we all know what is coming.

I appreciate what your saying and most fans are in the same boat, but this is Salford that your supporting not Wigan after all.
I think it's s bit of an over reaction to say the least, one competive game in with a completely new team against probably a top 4 grand final challenging side.
We brought super stars in it didn't work, we've got a steady squad now building for the future, this guy Sheens is no mug and won't want to end his career as a failure at Salford.

We've played Saints 41 times in SL, we've won 4. Last time in 2010.
Most of the losses have been 20 point + .
Can't understand the suicidal tendancies at the prospect of another reversal, which is odds on.
Just looking for improvement TBH.
The pre season bonhomie rudely interupted by The harsh awakening that the hard work is still to be done.
Hopefully the team , and the fans will both get a grip, expectation is a defeat, but no dummies being spat out.

I agree entirely.
Sadly,LVG had the same wish !

The only comparison is they have both achieved a lot in their respective careers before coming to their current clubs.
Difference is the expectation and pressure, LVG was expected to start winning the the premier league, whereas well everyone just expects Salford to lose.
LVG only had one way to go...down. Whereas Sheens has the chance to turn this club around over the next 3 years and go quietly about it.

This for me.

I told you Salford would go ok this season.

Saints have been poor, but Hull were red hot last week, this is a decent Salford team.